[PD] Idiomatic Pd
hans at eds.org
Tue Jul 29 19:35:05 CEST 2008
Can I suggest using the MoinMoin wiki syntax? IMHO the python wikis
all have weak syntax compared to MediaWiki, but MoinMoin is the
closest to MediaWiki, which is a widely used and relatively easy to
use syntax. It is also what is used in most of the rest of the
'docs' section. To use MoinMoin, the page has to be a "wiki page". A
regular Plone "page" doesn't allow it for some reason.
Also, to make an index page for that folder, create a page called
"FrontPage" or "index_html" IIRC. I think that would be a good place
to lay out all of the things that are relevant to the style guide,
like a survey of programming elements. Then people can make their
own style pages for things that are a matter of opinion. And
hopefully at the end, we can come up with something unified.
On Jul 29, 2008, at 2:30 AM, Luke Iannini wrote:
> Okay, here it is:
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner
> <hans at eds.org> wrote:
>> I think a style guide is a great idea. There have been some
>> discussions along these lines in the past. I'd say just start a
>> "wiki folder" on puredata.info in the /docs/ section and edit it up.
>> Something like /docs/style-guide/ I think that the main page could
>> lay out all of the possible realms of style, like dollar arguments,
>> abstractions, subpatches, inlets/outlets, trigger, etc. Then the
>> next step people can create sub-pages that outline all of their
>> styles. Then ultimately, things would be organized into a single
>> On Jul 27, 2008, at 9:34 PM, Luke Iannini wrote:
>>> There are some amazing sets of abstractions being released recently,
>>> which has served to highlight the many extant styles of patching. I
>>> was wondering if there was interest in establishing a set of
>>> guidelines for patching in the vein of PEP 8 for Python; I've found
>>> that document to be very relaxing as it is a standardized
>>> approach to
>>> OCD. More seriously, it greatly helps when reading other people's
>>> code or collaborating.
>>> The only one I have seen so far for Pd covers best practices for
>>> layout. I'd want to include that, but also codify naming,
>>> common idioms, and so on.
>>> I've begun to collect some of my practices to start things off.
>>> I was
>>> hoping we could all lazy-vote the document together in this
>>> thread and
>>> I'll then compile it into a PdPedia/Pd.info document. So, feel free
>>> to object to or replace my propositions.
>>> * If giving $0 as an argument to an abstraction, it is always
>>> first in
>>> the argument list 
>>> * * When possible, pass parent arguments in numeric order, like
>>> $0 $1 $2 other1 other2] etc.
>>> * Sends and Receives are written in camelCase, with "R" appended to
>>> complementary receives (e.g. in GUIs, $0mySlider for the send and
>>> $0mySliderR for the receive)
>>> * When prepending $0 to a symbol, only add a "-" to separate it from
>>> another number, like [r $0-1stSend]. Otherwise the symbol should
>>> immediately follow, like [r $0mySend].
>>> * When working with stereo, Left and Right pairs are written with Le
>>> and Ri appended (to distinguish them from an R denoting "receive",
>>> Programming recommendations
>>> * To invert a toggle, use [== 0]
>>> * Use the loadbang of the parent of both abstractions to initialize
>>> two or more interdependent abstractions
>>>  I think of this like emulating the "self" convention in Python
>>> And so on...
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