[PD] re-linking video libraries - stabilizing libraries.

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

With Pd-extended on Mac OS X the libs are included in the package.   
10.3.9 is not recommend, I don't think will work well there.

As for the GNU/Linux problems, post errors here and see what comes to  
mind.

.hc

On Sep 7, 2008, at 6:48 PM, Mark Pasquesi wrote:

> I'm having trouble with Pd and video on....
>
> 1) g4 portable - titanium, 1 gig RAM - 0sx.3.9, osx.4.11
> gem is unstable, as is pidip
>
> 2) minimac intel 1.83 mhz duo - mac 10.4.11 runs great!! but
>
> a) Ubuntu 2.6.20-16-generic - gem cannot acces vid libraries, nor  
> can  pidip
>
> b) Dyne:bolic /2618ck1d.krn - gem cannot find libs, nor can pidip  
> nor gridflow
>
> on both Ubuntu and Dyne .... Kino functions..... Meaning there must  
> be a bad refernce or library use ....
>
> Can I relink or grep these?
> Any ideas why we are good on mac, but on the same computer, bad for  
> linux?
> So, can I link these libraries to Kino's dependencies?  or to  
> ffmpeg?  How??
>
> finally,  on an older HP omnibook,
> I cannot get Ubuntu dapper, or Feisty(upgraded) or Dynebolic (with  
> Pure:dyne modules) to function with any video program....yet....
>
> Thus, no gem or gridflow or pidip video.....
>
>
> thanks,
>
> Mark
>
>
>
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>    1. Capturing computer s own video stream (simone-www.io-lab.org)
>    2. Re: mrmr + iphone + pd (Steffen Juul)
>    3. Re: Capturing computer s own video stream (husk)
>    4. Re: mrmr + iphone + pd (mark edward grimm)
>    5. tcpclient sending more than 1 send at once (Enrique Erne)
>    6. AVLAB 1.0 - Call for Collaborators (Hans-Christoph Steiner)
>    7. Re: netpd server crashes (Roman Haefeli)
>    8. Re: select audio & midi from patch (Roman Haefeli)
>    9. Re: select audio & midi from patch (tim)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 12:08:01 +0200
> From: simone-www.io-lab.org <cimo75 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [PD] Capturing computer s own video stream
> To: "pd-list at iem.at data" <pd-list at iem.at>
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> 	<e06043d70809070308yb72aeb1sc376b616a2d2ac07 at mail.gmail.com>
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> hi (again)
> i would like to be able to capture part of the screen of the computer
> where pure data is running: some kind of video snapshot in real time.
> For example: get a window 400x400 offset 600+400 on screen:0 and send
> it to position 0+0 to screen:1 or send it to another machine via OSC
> Simone
>
>
> -- 
> .wmv , .wma , .pps along with all proprietary Windows formats won t be
> accepted and/or viewed....
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 14:55:48 +0200
> From: Steffen Juul <stffn at dibidut.dk>
> Subject: Re: [PD] mrmr + iphone + pd
> To: mgrimm at syr.edu
> Cc: pd_list <pd-list at iem.at>
> Message-ID: <C9B5EDF6-C126-44CB-8E7D-6B450CA7E941 at dibidut.dk>
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>
> On
>  06/09/2008, at 17.20, mark edward grimm wrote:
>
> > hello,
> >
> > i just noticed that cydia offers 'mrmr' on the 2.0 jailbroken
> > iphones. i never tried it on the old 1.1.4 firmware so im not
> > certain how to connect the iphone to pd. im on osx 10.5. is there a
> > tutorial on how to make the connection to send osc?
>
> There is this: http://poly.share.dj/helpfiles/mrmr_quickstart/
> mrmr_quickstart.pdf
>
> The interface builder (mrmrIB) doesn't seam to run on 10.4 but on
> 10.5 - so your are lucky. I haven't tried the IB yet as i don't run
> 10.5, but i was to make a performance app/interface combo for a
> friend who got one of them phones. It doesn't say much about it in
> the tutorial but i suspect that while building the interface you'd
> give the widgets a "OSC-name". I would be nice to know what you cook
> up.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun,
>  07 Sep 2008 21:25:10 +0800
> From: husk <husk00 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [PD] Capturing computer s own video stream
> To: "pd-list at iem.at data" <pd-list at iem.at>
> Message-ID: <48C3D636.8010909 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> simone-www.io-lab.org escribi?:
> > hi (again)
> > i would like to be able to capture part of the screen of the  
> computer
> > where pure data is running: some kind of video snapshot in real  
> time.
> > For example: get a window 400x400 offset 600+400 on screen:0 and  
> send
> > it to position 0+0 to screen:1 or send it to another machine via OSC
> > Simone
> >
> Hi, with PDP you can use pdp_capture for do it
>
> maybe performances are not so good...
>
> bye
> Husk
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 07:11:52 -0700 (PDT)
> From: mark edward grimm
>  <mgrimm at syr.edu>
> Subject: Re: [PD] mrmr + iphone + pd
> To: Steffen Juul <stffn at dibidut.dk>
> Cc: pd_list <pd-list at iem.at>
> Message-ID: <295470.42486.qm at web32401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> well after banging my head against the wall for a couple hours late  
> yesterday
> afternoon i found the trouble to be with the 'pipeline' object in my
> patch...
>
> it also was odd that i couldn't connect prior to firing up the  
> interface
> builder (mrmrIB) app. once i did that that mrmr auto-connected upon  
> launch
> whether mrmrIB was launched or not.
>
> also i noticed that mrmr does not seem to retain its port settings  
> - i have to
> re-type it in every time the app is launched.
>
> once its running it controls my patch just fine and fairly fast!
>
> > I would be nice to
> > know what you cook up.
>
> just using it as demo for my students right now. all incoming
>  freshman received
> a free 'ipod touch' with the purchase of a mac - so they all have the
> means to experiment now! fun fun....
>
> mark
>
>
>
>
> --- On Sun, 9/7/08, Steffen Juul <stffn at dibidut.dk> wrote:
>
> > From: Steffen Juul <stffn at dibidut.dk>
> > Subject: Re: [PD] mrmr + iphone + pd
> > To: mgrimm at syr.edu
> > Cc: "pd_list" <pd-list at iem.at>
> > Date: Sunday, September 7, 2008, 8:55 AM
> > On 06/09/2008, at 17.20, mark edward grimm wrote:
> >
> > > hello,
> > >
> > > i just noticed that cydia offers 'mrmr' on the
> > 2.0 jailbroken
> > > iphones. i never tried it on the old 1.1.4 firmware so
> > im not
> > > certain how to connect the iphone to pd. im on osx
> > 10.5. is there a
> > > tutorial on how to make the connection to send osc?
> >
> > There is this:
> > http://poly.share.dj/helpfiles/mrmr_quickstart/
>
> > mrmr_quickstart.pdf
> >
> > The interface builder (mrmrIB) doesn't seam to run on
> > 10.4 but on
> > 10.5 - so your are lucky. I haven't tried the IB yet as
> > i don't run
> > 10.5, but i was to make a performance app/interface combo
> > for a
> > friend who got one of them phones. It doesn't say much
> > about it in
> > the tutorial but i suspect that while building the
> > interface you'd
> > give the widgets a "OSC-name". I would be nice to
> > know what you cook up.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 10:59:38 -0400
> From: Enrique Erne <enrique at netpd.org>
> Subject: [PD] tcpclient sending more than 1 send at once
> To: pd-list at iem.at
> Message-ID: <48C3EC5A.3000603 at netpd.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> hi martin and the list
>
> if i send [send 11, send 22, send
>  33, send 44, send 55(
> to [tcpclient] the [tcpserver] prints
>
> receive: 11 22 33 44 55
>
> actually i expected to get 5 messages back. is this a bug or am i  
> wrong?
>
> thanks eni
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 12:38:11 -0400
> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at eds.org>
> Subject: [PD] AVLAB 1.0 - Call for Collaborators
> To: "pd-list at iem.at data" <pd-list at iem.at>
> Message-ID: <CE2E0B58-681A-4C59-8A1B-0D0E39671361 at eds.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed
>
> <International Project Development Workshop>
>
> Call for Collaborators
> AVLAB 1.0
>
> In Medialab-Prado (Madrid / Spain), from September 17 through October
> 1, 2008
> Submissions deadline: September 15, 2008
>
>
> Medialab-Prado issues a call for all those interested in taking part
> in the AVLAB 1.0 collaborating in the development of
>  the selected
> proposals. These ten projects aim to use open source hardware and
> software tools to create prototypes that explore the relation between
> sound and all those artistic practices where audio and image  
> intersect.
>
> Submission Form and Call Guidelines:
> http://medialab-prado.es/article/taller_avlab_10_-
> _convocatoria_para_colaboradores
>
> Abstracts of selected Projects:
> http://medialab-prado.es/article/list_of_selected_projects
>
> Workshop general guidelines:
> http://medialab-prado.es/article/avlab_10
>
> Go to AVLAB 1.0 forum and contact authors, teachers and other
> collaborators:
> http://forommm.intermediae.es/viewforum.php?id=11
>
> In collaboration with EXPERIMENTACLUB 08 and the Centro para la
> Difusi?n de la M?sica Contempor?nea.
>
>
>
> More information: www.medialab-prado.es
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 
> --
>
> ----
>
> Access to computers should be unlimited and total.  - the hacker ethic
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 20:05:30 +0200
> From: Roman Haefeli <reduzierer at yahoo.de>
> Subject: Re: [PD] netpd server crashes
> To: pd-list at iem.at
> Message-ID: <1220810730.6499.31.camel at yoyo>
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>
> hi john
>
> sorry for late reply (i currently only have internet sporadically)
>
> i tried to make a netpd-server based on [tcpserver] from mrpeach  
> instead
> of [netserver] from maxlib. it wasn't that straightforward as i  
> thought
> in the beginning, because i had to use another library pdstring from
> moocow in order to convert string to ascii and vice versa. also i  
> had to
> 'implement' the FUDI protocol to make the new server behave exactly
> like
> the old one. i was running the new server on netpd.org for testing and
> it
>  seemed to work at first glance. BUT: when i tried to upload some
> patches to other clients, transmission didn't work at all. it always
> stopped at some point. i hadn't the time to figure out, what  
> exactly was
> going on, so i just switched back to the old server (netpd-server.pd).
>
> you'll find all the different servers on:
>
> http://www.netpd.org/server
>
> right now, don't use 'netpd-server-tcpserver.pd', which is
> unfortunately
> broken. the other ones are based on [netserver] and might crash  
> after a
> while, but at least the seem to fully work beside that.
>
>
> ------------
>
> just for your information:
> i am not happy about the 'proprietary' FUDI based protocol, that netpd
> uses right now. we (eni and me) are trying to port netpd to plain OSC
> protocol. therefore i implemented an OSC proxy server in pd. it is
> currently running on netpd.org on the port 8003. what it does is  
> simply
> forwarding OSC packets to
>  all/specific clients according to the first
> field in the OSC address pattern. if everything is going to work well,
> netpd will use OSC in the future (i hope this makes it easier to  
> connect
> netpd with other projects). you'll find the specs on:
>
> http://www.netpd.org/server (lower section)
>
> roman
>
>
> On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 15:01 -0500, John Harrison wrote:
> > Roman I haven't checked out the server yet. :-( Is it working for  
> you?
> > Also will there be a live patch jam this coming Tues CEST 22:00? I
> > couldn't find it on the website. If it is happening, I'll gear up
> some
> > people for it.
> >
> > -John
> >
> > Roman Haefeli wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 08:25 -0500, John Harrison wrote:
> > >
> > > > My interest has been piqued by netpd and a bunch of us here have
> been
> > > > playing with it. It's pretty fantastic --- there's only
> one
>  caveat,
> > > > which is that the netpd server crashes and pretty easily at
> that. I've
> > > > seen the netpd.org server crash a bunch of times now. I
> downloaded and
> > > > installed the server patch on an ubuntu Gutsy machine and that
> crashes
> > > > similarly. I looked at the patch --- nothing too complex. I
> suspect
> > > > there is nothing wrong with the patch itself.
> > > >
> > > > I'm suspecting the problem is with netserver, written by
> Olaf Matthes .
> > > > I suspect this because netsend~ and netreceive~ crash in my use
> in
> > > > similar ways to what I am seeing now with netpd --- Olaf Matthes
> wrote
> > > > those too. I was wondering if anybody could confirm or refute
> that
> > > > netserver is what is crashing netpd. It would be great if we
> fixed this.
> > > > In general I think we have a
>  problem with some externals
> involving
> > > > network communication and if we fixed this in several of the
> externals
> > > > maybe we would solve a bunch of problems at once. I might be up
> for a
> > > > shot at it myself.
> > > >
> > > > -John
> > > >
> > >
> > > hi john
> > >
> > > i made a new server patch, this time based on [tcpserver]. this  
> one
> is
> > > also much cleaner than the old one. unfortunately it requires also
> > > [any2string] and [string2any] from pdstring from moocow.
> > >
> > > you'll find the patch (and also the older versions) on:
> > >
> > > http://www.netpd.org/server
> > >
> > > i am currently running this one on netpd.org and i am  
> interested to
> see,
> > > whether it is possible to crash it or not. it would be good to  
> have
> any
> > > feedback
>  from you as well.
> > >
> > > roman
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 	
> > > 		
> > > ___________________________________________________________
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > John Harrison
> > http://alumni.media.mit.edu/~harrison
> >
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 20:05:49 +0200
> From: Roman Haefeli <reduzierer at yahoo.de>
> Subject: Re: [PD] select audio & midi from patch
> To: pd-list at iem.at
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>
> hi svend
>
> you can
>  send some message to [s pd] to change sound and midi settings.
> those messages aren't documented anywhere, though (is that correct?).
> however, you could do the following:
>
> [r pd]
> |
> [print settings]
>
> then go the menu, choose your settings and hit <ok> and you will see
> some output. write the output to a [messagebox( (separate each line  
> with
> a comma), which is connected to [s pd] and bang the
> [messagebox( whenever you like to restore those exact settings.
>
> with a bit of playing around, you might be able to figure out, what  
> each
> number in the message is used for. then you would be able to compose
> correct messages without using the above hack.
>
> roman
>
> roman
> On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 18:11 -0400, svend foyn wrote:
> > Hi list
> >
> > It's possible to view and change the audio settings from a patch?  
> and
> > with midi settings??
> > I was looking for the internal messages, but
>  there is nothing with
> > audio & midi.
> > I hope there's a way to do it.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > sf
> >
> >
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 20:40:35 +0200
> From: tim <info at timvets.net>
> Subject: Re: [PD] select audio & midi from patch
> To: reduzierer at yahoo.de, pd-list at iem.at
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>
> On Sun, 2008-09-07 at 20:05 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote:
> > hi svend
> >
> > you can send some message to [s pd] to change sound and midi  
> settings.
> > those messages aren't documented anywhere, though (is that  
> correct?).
> > however, you could do the following:
> >
> > [r pd]
> > |
> > [print settings]
> >
> > then go the menu, choose your settings and hit <ok> and you will see
> > some output. write the output to a [messagebox( (separate each  
> line with
> > a comma), which is connected to [s pd] and bang the
> > [messagebox( whenever you like to restore those exact settings.
> >
> > with a bit of playing around, you might be able to figure out,  
> what each
> > number in the message is used for. then you would be able to compose
> > correct messages without using the
>  above hack.
> >
> > roman
> >
>
> hello,
>
> A while ago I had a related problem, (iirc, starting pd with -alsamidi
> flag didn't show the midi ports to aconnect rightaway)
>
> I did this:
> use [r pd]--[print] to see what pd gets sent when you click the menu,
> and use pd -alsamidi -send "; pd ...whatever the message was"
>
> so my start-up command looked somewhat like this:
> pd -alsamidi -send "; pd midi-dialog 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 1"
>
> It did _not_ work when I tried it inside the pd patch with a  
> [message(,
> but only by putting this in the start-up command.
>
> gr,
> Tim
>
>
> > roman
> > On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 18:11 -0400, svend foyn wrote:
> > > Hi list
> > >
> > > It's possible to view and change the audio settings from a patch?
> and
> > > with midi settings??
> > > I was looking for the internal messages, but there is nothing with
> > > audio &
>  midi.
> > > I hope there's a way to do it.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > sf
> > >
> > >
> > >
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