[PD] Pd as a 24/7 Icecast/Shoutcast source client (alternative)

[Ilias Anagnostopoulos]

John,

I had a look at the radio pages. Looks good. Is there any particular 
reason you chose Shoutcast over Icecast? Are you using PD solely for the 
mp3cast~? Or is it doing more than that? Are you using the GUI's for all 
of these (jack, PD, jack-rack, xmms)?

 From what I understand, ffserver is used for the flash version, right? 
I haven't really heard much about flash stuff, I personally dislike 
flash and I don't even have in installed.

-Ilias

John Harrison wrote:
> Not sure how much this adds to the conversation but... we have been 
> using mp3cast~ to stream our radio station to 2 shoutcast servers for 
> a few years now. Works very well. Occasionally it will cause the 
> entire OS to hang if there is a disconnect with the internet at 
> apparently just the right time (happens less than 1x/month with our 
> off-campus server and never with our oncampus server) but it was more 
> stable than darkice in our tests as well.
>
> We use Jack for our connections. Our content scheduler is a hacked up 
> webcalendar, which triggers the content to be played via xmms (to be 
> replaced hopefully very soon by mplayer), then fed via jack-rack 
> through a compressor and limiter, and then sent to Pd for streaming.
>
> OT: but we also have a flash server/player solution which we find much 
> more popular than our shoutcast servers, and ours is the only 
> open-source web server I have seen actually work. It's an old version 
> of ffserver --- since 2006 or so that app has been broken for us at 
> least. Are there others out there?
>
> http://wsuir.wichita.edu
>
> --John
>
> On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Ilias Anagnostopoulos 
> <I.Anagnostopoulos at sheffield.ac.uk 
> <mailto:I.Anagnostopoulos at sheffield.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
>     Hello,
>
>     I haven't seen the whole discussion about this, but from what I
>     understand someone is using PD, mplayer and jack for streaming to an
>     icecast/shoutcast server.
>
>     I have used PD as a 24/7 source encoder/streamer, using mp3cast~,
>     in the
>     OtherSide project. This was a server that had PD running a synthesis
>     patch which can be controlled by OSC through IRC and a bot
>     listening on
>     a chatroom there. It has been up for the past 3-4 months non-stop and
>     with no maintenance within the University of Sheffield intranet.
>
>     My initial experiment was to run PD through Jack and use Darkice. I'd
>     patch the PD outputs to the Darkice inputs, which would then stream to
>     the Icecast server. It didn't seem to be as stable though and it was
>     more CPU-heavy than mp3cast~. I initially tried to do that cause I
>     wanted to use other software apart from PD, but I ended up
>     scripting the
>     rest of the software and get their output in PD, which would pipe the
>     output directly to the Icecast server. I didn't use a dac~ or jack,
>     saving a lot of CPU resources.
>
>     Any comments welcome, I'm still interested in hearing about ways other
>     people do similar things.
>
>     Take care,
>
>     Ilias
>
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