[PD] Yet more DS GUI excursions

Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at eds.org
Tue Jan 20 04:56:59 CET 2009

Wow, that looks pretty nice.  I think that there could be some usable  
DS objects with those tweaks you mentioned.


On Jan 19, 2009, at 5:14 AM, Luke Iannini wrote:

> Here's another experiment with datastructure-based GUI replacements.
> As with Chris (with his recent excellent "expanding GUI" concept), I'm
> a big big fan of hiding complexity, and I also like keeping details
> and interaction "in context", as in, somehow connected to or growing
> from the control you're manipulating.  Apple's doing this tons lately,
> e.g., the new iLife
> http://blog.cocoia.com/2009/01/07/iwork-ilife-09-ui-roundup/ ("HUD
> panel changes" is the only pic I can find, but there are many more
> examples in the new iMovie videos @
> http://www.apple.com/ilife/imovie/).
> So, this is a simple context-bubble sketch: dragging the slider
> reveals a bubble with two different interpretations of the slider's
> value.  With the new "click" message, these could me more than
> transient datalayers, and could graduate to being actual interactive
> controls.
> The biggest problem with this example is that the bounding box of the
> GOP needs to be bigger than the control to give room for the context
> popup to appear, meaning every control has a giant black rectangular
> halo.  It would be really awesome if there was a way to hide that box,
> just like IOhannes added the option to hide the object name and
> arguments.
> Another really nice addition to DS would be variable opacity, so when
> I do a filledpolygon I can specify 9005 as the color to get a
> transparent red rather than just 900.  That would be of great use for
> both these context bubbles as well as, say, a sample range selection
> box where you can still see the sample data under the selection.  And
> as ever, a way to specify a persistent z-index for DS is pretty
> essential for any complex use.
> Okee, that's all for the moment
> Best
> Luke
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