[PD] max for live

[Kyle Klipowicz]

Hans~

I have not tried Ardour+Jack+Pd+soft synths yet. I tried downloading Ardour
one time to show my 7th grade math/audio tech student. However, it was with
my G4 PowerBook running OSX 10.4 and was very shaky. He does like me showing
him Ableton though, and even a bit of Pd!

I'll give Ardour+Jack+Pd+soft synths (thanks copy/paste) a shot now that I
have a newer-ish refurbished MacBook with OSX 10.5 on it. I'll probably end
up tossing a Linux distro on here too, so we'll see.

I finally got a decent synch between Live and Pd using Live's external
instrument/effects devices. I used SoundFlower and Apple's IAC MIDI bus, and
the test was with Andy's trumpet patch and fibonnacci reverb. It got me
excited about the possibilities. I'm going to try using Jack again also.

It's exciting to try these options. I don't want people to think I'm a
hater!

~Kyle

On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at eds.org>wrote:

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> How much have you used Ardour+Jack+Pd+soft synths?  It is structured very
> differently that Ableton Live, but I think that is actually quite
> competitive in terms of what you can do with it.  It is a different system
> that requires as much learning as Live does.
>
> You have been able to run Pd patches in tight sync with Ardour and a
> multitude of soft synths for years now.  You just don't have nifty little
> embeddedness.  So this really seems to me more a classic example of the core
> innovation happening in free software, then proprietary software taking the
> ideas and packaging them really nicely, and promoting them a lot.  (I am not
> saying this is a bad thing).
>
> The iPhone is the classic version of that.  The App Store is nice, you've
> been able to do that on Linux-based devices since the late nineties, but
> mostly with a command line interface.
>
> .hc
>
> On Jan 29, 2009, at 11:27 AM, Kyle Klipowicz wrote:
>
> Live is not garbage. Incremental improvement != planned obsolescence.
> Making software for a business is not a sin. You get what you pay for.
>
> Open source is great. I appreciate everything that Pd and it's users stand
> for. However, trolling about a DAW when the free alternatives are 5 years
> back in the dust in terms of optimization, ease of use, and plain
> crash-resistance is just silly.
>
> Some people prefer to make music, not software. Some people prefer to make
> software, not music. Some people prefer to make software AND music. Some
> people make great music software but horrible music. Some people make great
> music but crummy software.
>
> ~Kyle
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 2:57 AM, day five <day5ive at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Live is garbage and so is their planned obsolescence business model...
>> what are they at version 56 by now?
>>
>> Now if they could embed jMax as a VST _then_ I'd be impressed.
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>> ./d5
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