[PD] data-struct: (x:y) & move object

Jonathan Wilkes jancsika at yahoo.com
Tue Feb 17 22:36:01 CET 2009

Thanks for the info on your patches, I'll check them out when I get a chance.

In one of your tutorials, you asked about the "sort" message.  Have a look at 07.sequencer.pd.  If you open the synthesis subpatch, you'll see that pd-data is sent a sort message before sequencing.  This sorts the data so that the left-to-right order of the graphical objects on the screen reflects the order in which they will be traversed.  In this case it's a way of ensuring that the sounds "match" the visuals.

As far as undocumented features, I don't know, but I just noticed there's a typo in the release notes:
"A "sendwindow" message forwards any message to the window contining the scalar currently pointed to."

It's actually send-window (with a hyphen).
[send-window vis 1(


--- On Tue, 2/17/09, João Pais <jmmmpais at googlemail.com> wrote:

> From: João Pais <jmmmpais at googlemail.com>
> Subject: Re: [PD] data-struct: (x:y) & move object
> To: "Frank Barknecht" <fbar at footils.org>, pd-list at iem.at
> Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 2:21 PM
> >> are there any other still undocumented features? I
> already noticed that
> >> struct outputs more than select/deselect -
> specially in pd-van.
> > 
> > I don't think, Pd-extended has different DS
> features than Pd vanilla.
> I'm on extended+windows, and the latest available build
> is from july 08 - there the structs don't output the
> "click" values. but that might be back in order
> when HC replaces the windows build disk. but testing them
> with pd-van revealed a couple missing details.
> > (x:y) is documented in 4.data.structures/09.scaling.pd
> yes, that was the tutorial I was speaking about and
> didn't clearly say.
> I've made these "tutorials" to resume the
> possibilities of working with data-s. they're not too
> pedagogic, but I think it's understandable for
> non-beginners. is anything missing there?
> And a question: arrays don't output the
> "change"
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