[PD] shell .... again....

Jack jack at rybn.org
Mon Mar 9 00:16:32 CET 2009


Le 8 mars 09 à 21:46, mark edward grimm a écrit :

>
>> Often, on MacOSX, when 'Pd-extended' quit,
>> 'pd' stay. You have to
>
> r u saying this might be a normal thing for pd-extended? for the  
> most part no (actually on ubuntu 8.10 pd-extended recently i have  
> to xkill fairly often?) on osx... but sometimes, more rarely, yes.
No, it is not normal that Pd-extended crash ;) But it occurs  
sometimes. And in this case, if 'Pd-entended' crash and 'pd' is  
launched, you'd better to force to quit 'pd' before to relaunch 'Pd- 
extended'.
>
> not sure what you are asking though... is this a general problem or  
> an issue related to [shell] still?
This is not related to [shell], only a general behaviour.
++

Jack


>
> m
>
>
> --- On Sun, 3/8/09, Jack <jack at rybn.org> wrote:
>
>> From: Jack <jack at rybn.org>
>> Subject: Re: [PD] shell .... again....
>> To: mgrimm at syr.edu
>> Cc: reduzierer at yahoo.de, "pd_list" <pd-list at iem.at>
>> Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 4:18 PM
>> Often, on MacOSX, when 'Pd-extended' quit,
>> 'pd' stay. You have to
>> force 'pd' to quit then relauch
>> 'Pd-extended' (if i'm right).
>> ++
>>
>> Jack
>>
>>
>> Le 8 mars 09 à 21:12, mark edward grimm a écrit :
>>
>>>
>>> oh... and PD does not quit. even if i hit
>> "relaunch" or "ignore" or
>>> even if i just try to quit in general....
>>>
>>> i have to "force quit"
>>>
>>> and this has been like this for a little while on
>> differnt
>>> systems.. at least at the leopard level. not sure
>> about tiger/ppc/
>>> intel - not sure if that all made a difference....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Sun, 3/8/09, mark edward grimm
>> <mgrimm at syr.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> From: mark edward grimm <mgrimm at syr.edu>
>>>> Subject: Re: [PD] shell .... again....
>>>> To: reduzierer at yahoo.de
>>>> Cc: "pd_list" <pd-list at iem.at>
>>>> Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 4:07 PM
>>>>> what are the symptoms of the crashes? does pd
>> just quit
>>>>> with a segfault,
>>>>> or does [shell] makes pd hang?
>>>>
>>>> yeah its really weird....
>>>>
>>>> i get:
>>>>
>>>> "the application pd quit unexpectedly"
>>>>
>>>> then i can ignore or relaunch...
>>>>
>>>> either choice PD still runs in the background. the
>>>> "ignore" or "relaunch" seems
>> to be only
>>>> a nag screen that does not do anything... but at
>> the same
>>>> time creates the situation that make PD
>> unusable...
>>>>
>>>> anyone else with he same?
>>>>
>>>> maybe its leopard thing?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- On Sun, 3/8/09, Roman Haefeli
>>>> <reduzierer at yahoo.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> From: Roman Haefeli
>> <reduzierer at yahoo.de>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [PD] shell .... again....
>>>>> To: mgrimm at syr.edu
>>>>> Cc: "pd_list" <pd-list at iem.at>
>>>>> Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 3:02 PM
>>>>> On Sun, 2009-03-08 at 11:53 -0700, mark edward
>> grimm
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> i have been "trying" to use
>> shell...
>>>> works
>>>>> OK in linux but in osx it just crashes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i am just wondering if this thread went
>> anywhere:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>> http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2009-01/067700.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i have it in a bunch of patches now and
>> would
>>>> love to
>>>>> use it more ... if it had more
>> cross-compatibility
>>>> (osx)
>>>>> because i tend to work with others + other
>> os's.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> maybe i should just change to pdlua as
>> frank
>>>>> suggested? or might shell someday get fixed?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> not sure what to do....
>>>>>
>>>>> what are the symptoms of the crashes? does pd
>> just
>>>> quit
>>>>> with a segfault,
>>>>> or does [shell] makes pd hang?
>>>>>
>>>>> it's been a while, since i used [shell]
>> the last
>>>> time,
>>>>> but i remember,
>>>>> that i could always make it work with what i
>> wanted,
>>>> it was
>>>>> just a
>>>>> matter of writing the script in a way, so that
>> it
>>>>> immediately exits or
>>>>> detaches the running processes to the
>> background.
>>>> commands,
>>>>> that do not
>>>>> exit, will make [shell] block pd. all this
>> only
>>>> applies, if
>>>>> you
>>>>> experience hangs, but not segfaults, of
>> course.
>>>>>
>>>>> roman
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 	
>>>>> 		
>>>>>
>>>>
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