[PD] couldnt create pdp

Paul Finn paulfinn81 at gmail.com
Thu Mar 19 01:56:24 CET 2009


The prognosis was meagative on my two recent fedora excursions, f8 and  
f10. Pd would work fine but most extended specific obects couldn't be  
created. I lost a lot of time figuring this out. Moved to ubuntu  
today. Much happier now.

With this new tutorial manual there are a few total beginner things  
that I've learned the hard way that could be included. There is no  
reason not to consolidate info. Small links with basic info get lost  
in most scene/communities I find. My two cents.

                ~_.~*fine*~._~

On 19 Mar 2009, at 00:27, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at eds.org> wrote:

>
> On Mar 18, 2009, at 11:57 AM, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote:
>
>> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>> Worst comes to worst, Pd and Pd-extended runs best on Debian-based  
>>> distros like Debian, Ubuntu, pure:dyne, etc.
>>> .hc
>>
>> pd-extended might work on pure:dyne (after all, it's Debian with  
>> extra packages), but it won't ever be in the live distro, and  
>> installing it will remove all the supported pd externals from  
>> pure:dyne (they depend on puredata, which pd-extended conflicts  
>> with, or should if it has been packaged properly).
>>
>> One of the main reasonings behind Pd in pure:dyne is to package  
>> each library on its own, to avoid both the maintenance nightmares  
>> of a huge package build system and the tricky timing involved to  
>> get "all externals working at once".  Each package can be tested  
>> separately and upgraded separately, increasing quality and saving  
>> bandwidth.
>
> I think that's the way that Pd-extended should be packaged for  
> Debian too.  The monolithic package is not a good design, but was  
> easy to do.  We were talking a while back about merging efforts, I  
> think it would be great to revisit that discussion.
>
> Then the next step would be getting those packages into Debian.  It  
> seems Guenter has stopped updating his Debian packages, 'puredata'  
> is at 0.40.3, pd-externals is no longer in the repo, etc.
>
>> BTW, pure:dyne has packages for pdp + friends, with no  
>> pdp_metro_setup issue:
>>
>> $ nm -D /usr/lib/pd/extra/pdp/pdp.pd_linux | grep metro
>> 0000f9f0 T pdp_metro_setup
>>
>> So I guess the original issue is another pd-extended bug.
>
> Yeah, on Fedora only though.  I don't use Fedora at all so I am at a  
> loss.  PDP works fine in Pd-extended on Ubuntu and Debian.
>
> .hc
>
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>>
>> Claude
>> -- 
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>> http://puredyne.goto10.org
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