[PD] default [output~] in Pd-extended

Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at eds.org
Sat Mar 21 03:44:13 CET 2009


On Mar 11, 2009, at 8:42 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:

> Steffen Juul wrote:
>> On 10/03/2009, at 18.11, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>> (...) and the green/white toggle from [pddp/dsp].
>> I quite strongly think [cvn]'s tricks should be avoided in help  
>> patches, especially those default for vanilla objects.
>
> what are "[cnv]'s tricks"? setting their colour?
> i wouldn't call it a trick, as it is one of the few things you can  
> actually do with a cnv.
> (a trick would probably be to set the send/receive labels at  
> runtime; which really makes patches rather unreadably; another trick  
> would be to move objects around to make GOPs be polymorphic; i agree  
> that simple every-day objects should probably avoid such things; i  
> still don't see any trick in setting the colour of a canvas or the  
> value of a numberbox)
>
>> Reason being it took me quite some time before i got heads and  
>> tails of it. Before that, it was a total mystery. Such mysteries  
>> are bad for learning since it may well obstruct learning of basic  
>> things. There is enough syntax to get into when starting to learn Pd.
>
>
> but myteries unveiled are good for learning.
> so it boils down to in-line documentation of the mysteries used.

So here's my attempt at a vanilla combination of Miller's output~,  
rradical/ezdac~, and pddp/dsp.

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