[PD] style guide idea: [send foo] versus [; foo(

Jonathan Wilkes jancsika at yahoo.com
Wed Mar 25 21:01:21 CET 2009





--- On Wed, 3/25/09, Mathieu Bouchard <matju at artengine.ca> wrote:

> From: Mathieu Bouchard <matju at artengine.ca>
> Subject: Re: [PD] style guide idea: [send foo] versus [; foo(
> To: "Hans-Christoph Steiner" <hans at eds.org>
> Cc: "Matt Barber" <brbrofsvl at gmail.com>, pd-list at iem.at
> Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 5:48 PM
> On Sat, 21 Mar 2009, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> 
> > And one last little story that I just remembered:  I
> didn't realize that [send pd] was even a possibility
> until recently.  I had always seen [; pd dsp 1( and figured
> messages to pd had to be sent that way.
> 
> So is this a sign that this part of Pd is difficult, or a
> sign that you didn't learn it at the beginning? What if
> I teach that thing at the very beginning of a course? The
> beginners may get themselves to think that it's a very
> basic concept of pd, and won't understand your
> recommendation to get it removed.
> 
> Btw, it's in
> pd/doc/2.control.examples/10.more.messages.pd , and I'd
> have trouble considering anything in that folder as being
> non-basic.
> 
> The problem with removing unneeded words and concepts from
> a course is that it doesn't prepare the students for the
> world, it prepares the students for an exam (or for anything
> else that happens within the class). Which means that once
> they try to handle patches made outside of this little
> world, it reveals those holes in their knowledge.
> 
> Once that I giving some kind of crash course on pd, I said
> that outlets are linked to inlets using lines, connections,
> wires, cords or patchcords. Later I was told by a teacher
> that it's wrong to do so and that I should only be
> stating one word and use it consistently. Well, I disagree a
> lot. I don't want to cultivate students in a bubble. If
> they try to search mailing-list archives for something
> related to patchcords, they really do have to search for
> those five words in order to find everything, and then if
> they talk to anyone outside of the course they have to be
> able to communicate. It's the same deal for semicolons
> imho.

I understand the point of making that information available, but once you start describing a particular pd concept, don't you stick to one term for the sake of clarity?

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