[PD] EzPd (Re: Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!)

Fri Mar 13 18:35:06 CET 2009

Thanks everyone for your replies and suggestions!
It's good to know I'm not alone in my frustrations. I would really love to
work on this project, since it would make it easier for me to teach K-8
students about acoustics and math using Pd if there were more LEGO-like
primitives to snap together easily.

If we can get something like this up as a candidate for GSoC, some wonderful
things could arise from it.

Most definitely, the names should be very easy to understand. That is part
of my frustration right now with Pd-extended. There is a wealth of stuff,
but it's all named oddly by different people and is difficult to explore in
a meaningful way. Part of me thinks that Pd-extended needs to cut the fat a
little bit...maybe a Pd-intended version? Only including an organized
catalog of well-named, glue-able parts that all play nice together?

~Kyle

On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Enrique Erne <enrique at netpd.org> wrote:

> hi Kyle
>
> i love the idea of a Classic Unit Library (CUL?)
> BBB - Beginners Building Blocks
> WSP - (Where to Start with Pd)
> WSP - warm swimming pool :)
>
> for me the first step would be to write some specs:
> - coding style guide (who did it? luke?), license, naming convention, howto
> contribute
> and also analyze existing libs: pdmtl, rjlib maybe you could even just
> build on them?
>
> i'd like to see the WSP Lib:
> - bsd
> - flat
> - super simple black&white interfaces
> - as pure as possible
> - a minimum of possible dependencies
> - not gopish ?
> - howto contribute?
> - with self explaining naming?
>
>
> i'm just about to upload my zipped netpd directory.
> http://netpd.org/eni/downloads/?C=M;O=D
> (8.9MB because there are some samples)
>
> eni
>
>
>
>
>
> Kyle Klipowicz wrote:
>
>> How about this project:
>> Beginners Building Blocks.
>>
>> Right now, If I want to even make a simple sine oscillator synth with an
>> ADSR envelope on it, it's not very easy to do out of the box. What if
>> there
>> were some entry-level abstractions in a very OBVIOUS location that people
>> could instantly piece together some classic Unit Generators. Important for
>> these would be the ability to copy/paste items from a main page of
>> abstractions. Also, they should have a simple GUI interface, and possibly
>> be
>> set up automatically to use SSAD.
>>
>> I'm thinking stuff like:
>>
>> -basic envelope generators
>> -basic oscillators (bandlimited ones would be nice): sine, square,
>> triangle,
>> sawtooth
>> -basic i/o that is more intuitive to newbies
>> -basic sample players (one shot, looping, pitch shifting, multi-sample a
>> la
>> fluidsynth)
>> -basic MIDI controller mapping tools (so people could just twist a knob to
>> assign a parameter)
>> -basic step, piano roll, &c sequencers
>> -basic pitch/rhythm analysis (wrappers for sigmund~, fiddle~, and bonk~)
>> -basic modular counters
>> -an extensive collection of examples using these objects, documenting
>> parameters, as well as ways to connect and/or modify and save new versions
>> of objects using SSAD
>> -video stuff would also be great, something akin to a freshened up
>> PixelTango.
>>
>> Anyway, I just thought these things would be really nice to have in an
>> accessible place in Pd-extended. Because right now whenever I just want to
>> make something very simple, i end up having to click a mouse about 200
>> times
>> which is annoying and makes me worried about RTS!
>>
>> Pd and Pd-extended are so difficult to navigate for newbies. There need to
>> be more "pick up and go" audio tools. I'm thinking of how Reaktor and
>> Max/MSP are so easy to dive into. Pd is a lot like a cold cold ocean
>> whereas
>> the other two are nice warm swimming pools. Pd is deeper and more exciting
>> by far, but you can get swept away in an undertow never to return!
>>
>> This project could be accomplished by merging elements from NetPd, Pdmtl,
>> and various slick patches made by the resident list geniuses. (Another
>> thing
>> about NetPd if Roman and Eni are listening: can you make a tar.gz or zip
>> download of ALL current NetPd patches? I hate having to download 30+ items
>> one at a time. RTS fears again!)
>>
>> So there's my way more than 2 cents. Take what you will from it.
>>
>> ~Kyle
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at eds.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  On Mar 7, 2009, at 9:51 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote:
>>>
>>>  On Sat, 2009-03-07 at 11:26 +0100, Enrique Erne wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The Google Summer of Code ((http://code.google.com/soc/) application
>>>>>> is due very soon, March 9th, and we need mentors!  At this point,
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> just need to put down your name.  Then once the projects are in,
>>>>>> we'll
>>>>>> choose projects and who will mentor them.
>>>>>> Every pd developer who wants to support the project but is not
>>>>>> student
>>>>>> anymore is invited to join as mentor, since the number of sponsored
>>>>>> projects by google depends on the number of mentors and students.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Andy, Claude, Frank, Marius, Mathieu, Roman where are you guys?
>>>>>
>>>>> add your names, hurry! :)
>>>>>
>>>> yo, i am happy to add my name, but i guess it only makes sense for
>>>> me to
>>>> take a mentorship of a project, that is about patching and not c
>>>> coding.
>>>> from what i have seen, there is only one project - undead - which
>>>> seems
>>>> to be about patching. derek holzer is already proposed as a mentor.
>>>> does
>>>> it make sense to propose more then one mentor for a project?
>>>>
>>> You could also create a new project based on something like creating
>>> libraries out of all that useful code in netpd.  Basically, think of
>>> something that you would like implemented in Pd that you could mentor.
>>>
>>> .hc
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> roman
>>>>
>>>>
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