[PD] The PdCon09 webpage is down ... am I too late?

Alexandre Porres porres at gmail.com
Sun Mar 15 20:28:54 CET 2009


the webpage is down, we are trying to get it up ASAP, a damn back up was
schedulled for today...

Anyway,

you guys can still get the forms at

http://porres.googlepages.com/Art.zip
http://porres.googlepages.com/Workshop.zip
http://porres.googlepages.com/Paper.zip

then go to

http://pdcon09.devolts.org/openconf.php

click at Make a Submission, fill the form, get an ID

then go to Upload File to send us the PDFs

Sorry for the trouble.




other extra files can be sent to pdcon09 at estudiolivre.orgOn Sun, Mar 15,
2009 at 3:55 PM, <pd-list-request at iem.at> wrote:

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>   3. Re: steep filter? (hard off)
>   4. Re: steep filter? (Jo?o Pais)
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>   6. Re: change samplerate locally (hard off)
>   7. Re: change samplerate locally (Martin Peach)
>   8. Re: The PdCon09 webpage is down ... am I too late?
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> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 02:00:26 +0900
> From: hard off <hard.off at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [PD] Unified Library was Re: Call for GSoC mentors! March
>        9th     deadline!
> To: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at eds.org>
> Cc: danomatika <danomatika at gmail.com>, "pd-list at iem.at"
>        <pd-list at iem.at>,       Kyle Klipowicz <kyleklip at gmail.com>
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> >>But I think that we don't really know well enough how to do the whole
> thing right<<
>
>
> i have good experience in doing a library wrong. :)  i can at least point
> out the flaws in that so they don't get repeated.
>
> none of the libraries are very good general all-purpose toolkits though, in
> my opinion.  i guess that's mainly because none of them have really been
> designed as general toolkits.  there is heaps of good stuff in rjdj, but
> it's all for the phone, which has no pd GUI component.  netpd on the other
> hand, everything has a gui, and it's all designed to work well as a part of
> the netpd system.  but it's a little bit tricky to then use the netpd
> patches outside of netpd.  not really spent too much time with pdmtl, but
> that just seems like more of a collection of patches than an actual
> library.
> s-abstractions and the diy library i did both fall down a bit for me
> because
> they tie the functionality of the patches in too much with the gui and
> state
> saving.
>
> i think what hans is talking about and what we are discussing might be
> completely different things though.  i think hans is talking about a truly
> unified library to join together all the different pieces in pd-extended
> and
> put them all together in a logical and user-friendly manner.  which would
> be
> a pretty massive project, i admit.
>
> i think though, what we're talking about here is more just like a
> collection
> of tools to build synths, sequencers, effects, samplers, recorders,
> soundfile players, etc etc etc.  most of the libraries already mentioned
> are
> doing that.  but the problem is that there are no unified conventions for
> patching, naming, licencing, etc.  and it would be nice to have all the
> best
> and most useful bits of each library in one place, all working together,
> and
> all very simply and easily ported into other pd projects.
>
> i think it's well within our reach to do that at the moment.
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> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 02:33:50 +0900
> From: hard off <hard.off at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [PD] change samplerate locally
> To: Martin Peach <martin.peach at sympatico.ca>
> Cc: Pd List <pd-list at iem.at>
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> hi martin, thanks for taking the time to reply.
>
> i can set pd to whatever samplerate i want in media->audio settings.  i
> just
> checked again going through a whole bunch of values between 22050 and 44100
> and they all work.
>
> my problem is that the samplerate is global, and i need it only to be
> local.  i think the 'solution' i suggested in my 2nd post is going to be
> the
> way to do it, but i just don't know how to do that.
>
>
> [*~ 2048]
> > |
> > [expr~ $v1%2048]
> > |
> > [/~ 2048]
> >
>
> thanks.  that's what i had done originally, but i couldn't hear any effect.
> i guess if i really want 12-bit sound in pd, i'd have to use that construct
> after each and every calculation in the signal chain. seems a fair bit of
> overkill just to make the sound WORSE though!
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> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 02:37:58 +0900
> From: hard off <hard.off at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [PD] steep filter?
> To: Jo?o Pais <jmmmpais at googlemail.com>
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> it's not possible to filter without ANY roll-off as far as i know.
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> From: Jo?o Pais <jmmmpais at googlemail.com>
> Subject: Re: [PD] steep filter?
> To: "hard off" <hard.off at gmail.com>
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> and close to that? just like the spectral trim in audition or something
> similar.
>
> > it's not possible to filter without ANY roll-off as far as i know.
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 03:02:49 +0900
> From: hard off <hard.off at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [PD] steep filter?
> To: Jo?o Pais <jmmmpais at googlemail.com>
> Cc: PD-List <pd-list at iem.at>
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> chebychev filters look good, elliptic ones look better:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Electronic_linear_filters.svg
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> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 03:26:44 +0900
> From: hard off <hard.off at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [PD] change samplerate locally
> To: Martin Peach <martin.peach at sympatico.ca>
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> actually, i just checked and that method i suggested before doesn't work at
> all.  it's the same as the [phasor~ 28000] - [samphold~] effect.
>
>
>
> martin, i missed this part of your mail before:
>
> >>Unless you're looking for aliasing artifacts, wouldn't it be easier to
> use
> a multi-pole low-pass filter at around 14kHz?<<
>
> i just tried that, and i guess what i need must be the aliasing artifacts.
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> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 14:31:51 -0400
> From: Martin Peach <martin.peach at sympatico.ca>
> Subject: Re: [PD] change samplerate locally
> To: hard off <hard.off at gmail.com>
> Cc: Pd List <pd-list at iem.at>
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> hard off wrote:
> > hi martin, thanks for taking the time to reply.
> >
> > i can set pd to whatever samplerate i want in media->audio settings.  i
> > just checked again going through a whole bunch of values between 22050
> > and 44100 and they all work.
>
> Yes you're right. I should have checked first ;)
> Maybe writing into a table at 44100 and using [tabread4~] with a signal
> that is quantized to the ratio of sample rates would work?
>
> >
> > my problem is that the samplerate is global, and i need it only to be
> > local.  i think the 'solution' i suggested in my 2nd post is going to be
> > the way to do it, but i just don't know how to do that.
> >
> >
> >     [*~ 2048]
> >     |
> >     [expr~ $v1%2048]
> >     |
> >     [/~ 2048]
> >
> >
> > thanks.  that's what i had done originally, but i couldn't hear any
> > effect.  i guess if i really want 12-bit sound in pd, i'd have to use
> > that construct after each and every calculation in the signal chain.
> > seems a fair bit of overkill just to make the sound WORSE though!
> >
> >
>
> Well 12-bit sound is pretty good, as good as audio cassette with no
> dolby. You should try replacing 2048 with 128 or less to hear true lo-fi.
>
> Martin
>
>
>
>
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> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:58:12 +0100
> From: IOhannes m zm?lnig <zmoelnig at iem.at>
> Subject: Re: [PD] The PdCon09 webpage is down ... am I too late?
> To: danomatika <danomatika at gmail.com>
> Cc: "pd-list at iem.at" <pd-list at iem.at>
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> danomatika wrote:
> > Does the PdCon 09 page work for anyone?
> >
> > Naturally, I forgot to apply and realized it is due today and now the
> > page is down ... :(
>
> try these instead:
>
> paper submit page:
> http://pdcon09.devolts.org/author/submit.php
>
> paper upload page (once you have submitted it):
> http://pdcon09.devolts.org/author/upload.php
>
>
> cheers
>
> fgmadsr
> IOhannes
>
>
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