[PD] Doc/tutorial thoughts from Max/MSP switcher/newbie (long)
Hans-Christoph Steiner
hans at eds.org
Fri Apr 3 23:03:58 CEST 2009
Welcome (back) to Pd! :-) I have two quick responses:
- pdpedia is useful for searching for objects based on keywords: http://wiki.puredata.info/en/
- as for the help patches that are lacking, feel free to fix them up
and submit them to the patch tracker, then we can add them. There are
2000+ objects included in Pd-extended, so there is a lot of work to
document them all.
http://puredata.info/dev/patchtracker
.hc
On Apr 3, 2009, at 4:13 AM, J. Simon van der Walt wrote:
> Seems there's a lot of activity around docs and tutorials in this
> community
> at the moment. It's great for someone like me, giving Pd another try
> after a
> couple of years of using Max/MSP. Since I last looked at it, things
> are much
> improved. Pd-extended is great; all the libraries I'll probably/
> maybe need
> are packaged away in a .app where I can just forget about them. This
> is
> market leading as far as I'm concerned; much better than Max/MSP (or
> heaven
> forbid, SuperCollider!) - for me as a musician/geek (but not a
> programmer)
> the whole business of trying to figure out which stupid folder some
> bunch of
> stupid files has to be dropped into just - gets - really - boring.
>
> On the docs and tutorials front, again I'm finding a lot of great
> stuff.
> However... just at the moment I'm trying to port one of my favourite
> max
> patches to Pd and finding it unexpectedly difficult to find the
> information
> I need. I find I'm missing three really useful things in Max/MSP; in
> order
> of importance, probably, consistent 'related object' buttons in the
> help
> patches, the Object Thesaurus, and a complete reference manual.
>
> Ok, there are 'related object' buttons in many help files, but for
> some
> reason I can't quite put my finger on, I frequently find myself dead-
> ended
> in Pd, and not sure where to look for an object which might just do
> what I
> want.
>
> This is where an Object Thesaurus would be really great, being able
> to look
> up objects (including those from extended libraries) by what-they-do
> category. For instance, the other day I was looking to see if there
> was
> something like the Max/MSP matrix~ and matrixctrl for audio routing. I
> couldn't really see where to start, other than trawling randomly
> through
> help files and tutorials in the hope of spotting something relevant.
> http://en.flossmanuals.net/PureData/ListofObjects is a good start in
> this
> direction (although that page is formatting oddly for me at the
> moment?)
>
> Finally, of course, a complete reference page on every object...
>
> nb 1 - of course, for matrix~ I ended up using, er, matrix~ from the
> cyclone
> library. Still wondering if there is another way, rather than just
> falling
> back on Max/MSP solutions...
>
> nb 2 - hope this post comes across as useful feedback from a newish
> user,
> not carping...
>
> --
> J. Simon van der Walt ----- Composer
> <http://www.jsimonvanderwalt.com>
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