[PD] PD t-shirts

Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at eds.org
Mon Apr 6 06:23:01 CEST 2009

I like the DIY way.  It would be great if people organized their own  
fundraisers and bounties.  I think that fits in well with the anarchic  
nature of Pd.

There are things like cafepress.com for t-shirts and the like.  It is  
more expensive than doing it yourself, probably, but its easier.  It  
would be nice to see more than one Pd t-shirt available.  I'd like  
bang-until and that cake, for example.


On Apr 2, 2009, at 10:38 AM, Ben Baker-Smith wrote:

> Thanks Kyle,
> That's much more in line with what I'm looking to do.  I also cannot
> afford to go to PdCon given that it's all the way in Brazil, and I'm
> sure the majority of Pd users are in the same boat.  A documentation
> bounty seems like a good way to encourage people to document, and give
> them a way of justifying their time.  And, I agree, probably more
> worthwhile than paying half of one person's ticket to Sao Paulo.
> In regards to designs, and printing:
> I'm thinking it might be cheapest (allowing more money to be raised)
> for me to print the shirts myself.. I just need to come up with a
> solid price estimate in the next couple days.  Also, this seems more
> in line with the do-it-yourself attitude of Pd than, say, e-mailing a
> .Gif file to an internet service and letting it all go through them.
> I have  couple designs I've drawn up myself, and a few have been
> submitted to me via this list.  So, hopefully by the end of the
> weekend, I will upload them to my site and post a link on the list for
> feedback.
> -Ben
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 1:24 AM, Kyle Klipowicz <kyleklip at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
>> Yes, I agree that the fund should be for a documentation bounty.
>> I think that Ben (or whoever makes the shirts) should hold the  
>> money in
>> trust. Perhaps set up an interest-bearing account to save the cash  
>> in. Then
>> create a well-documented (pun?) bounty description of what key  
>> features are
>> to be implemented and the financial payment for each.
>> You could do micropayments for key help patches or examples, say  
>> $20 US
>> each, or a big bounty for larger sections such as re-organizing  
>> existing
>> patches into a tidy intro library for new uses, with ready-mades to  
>> go.
>> I think this would be a longer lasting value than paying for Pd- 
>> con. I'd
>> love to go myself, but probably cannot afford it...but I'd rather  
>> see some
>> solid documentation be built...or have the financial incentive to  
>> do it!
>> (Not a capitalist, just a hungry belly).
>> ~Kyle
>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Ben Baker-Smith <bbakersmith at gmail.com 
>> >
>> wrote:
>>> I'm open to the idea of donating proceeds to PdCon.  But, having  
>>> never
>>> been, I have some clarifying questions/concerns.
>>> I would really prefer that any money from sales went toward
>>> documentation, which in turn will increase useability and make PD  
>>> more
>>> accessible to new users.  Does the convention encourage/promote
>>> documentation?  Is time spent at the convention trying to increase  
>>> the
>>> existing body of literature?
>>> If so, then I'm all for it.  I just don't want to settle on PdCon if
>>> it's only useful to attendees.  (of course, I understand that in a
>>> good open-source community knowledge gained by any members  
>>> contributes
>>> in some way to the knowledge of the group... but I'm talking more
>>> formal documention rather than more answers on the mailing list)
>>> Glad to hear the interest.  I'm still looking into the best way to  
>>> go
>>> about printing, selling, and distributing.
>>> If someone wants to partner up on this I'd be happy for the help and
>>> added input.
>>> -Ben
>>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Alexandre Castonguay
>>> <acastonguay at artengine.ca> wrote:
>>>> Hi Ben, all,
>>>> We did the last batch of t's as a fundraiser for the Convention in
>>>> Montréal.  We managed to pay for another 1/2 plane ticket with the
>>>> proceeds :-).  Maybe the same could be done for São Paulo?
>>>> The super folks from Graz sent the file they used for the  
>>>> original t's I
>>>> should still have it if you want.
>>>> À bientôt,
>>>> Alexandre
>>>>> Hello List,
>>>>> I'm considering designing and selling PD related t-shirts.  I  
>>>>> haven't
>>>>> totally worked out the logistics.  Basically I was inspired by the
>>>>> [Bang( shirts that I've seen online, but which are no longer  
>>>>> available
>>>>> as far as I can tell.
>>>>> Anyway, if I did so, I would like to donate all of the proceeds  
>>>>> toward
>>>>> further PD development, specifically documentation of poorly
>>>>> documented objects (or example patches, which is basically the  
>>>>> same
>>>>> thing).
>>>>> How do you all think would be the best way of going about this?
>>>>> Should I stockpile the money and then offer it to someone as a  
>>>>> sort of
>>>>> grant?  That's less than ideal in my opinion.  I really don't  
>>>>> know how
>>>>> to go about this.
>>>>> Any/all input is welcome
>>>>> -Ben
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