[PD] a story for Lists

Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at eds.org
Mon Apr 6 16:07:38 CEST 2009

For this book, I think its good to avoid the confusing part  
altogether, at least until much later.  The lists chapter can work  
with lists of numbers only.  Then there is little confusion.  So if  
there was a good story based on lists of numbers, it would guide the  
beginner thru the concepts of "lists" and get them going working with  

Then after that is all done, lists that include symbols can be added,  
and then this annoying issue could start to be addressed.


On Apr 6, 2009, at 6:51 AM, Derek Holzer wrote:

> Thanks Frank. This was a question which came up in discussion  
> between Hans and I yesterday, which was on the verge of getting very  
> confusing! I think this suggestion might help Hans with his writing.
> best!
> Derek
> Frank Barknecht wrote:
>> Hallo,
>> Derek Holzer hat gesagt: // Derek Holzer wrote:
>>> This is all well and good, but no new Pd user is going to read all  
>>> this,  let alone know what to do with it ;-)
>> It was more for Andy. ;)
>> For the FLOSS book I would just silently use the term list-message  
>> whenever you
>> talk about list-messages, and maybe "set"-message when talking  
>> about "set x" etc.
>> That way you don't need to write confusing sentences like: "x y z"  
>> is not a list.
>> "x y z" may be a list or not to someone, but it's definitely not a  
>> list-message.
>> Ciao
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