[PD] >, <, &&, || etc

Mathieu Bouchard matju at artengine.ca
Mon Apr 6 19:01:25 CEST 2009

On Sun, 5 Apr 2009, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> --- On Mon, 4/6/09, Martin Peach <martin.peach at sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> Oh I see. But that notation is only standard in shell languages and is 
>> not going to help someone guess the name of the object or what it does, 
>> especially if they are not used to english. You could name [or] just 
>> [o] for example...a saving of one letter in exchange for an infinite 
>> increase in uncertainty. It would contribute to making Pd a secret 
>> language for initiates who bang until.
> Are you saying that initiates would know a secret way to bang until that 
> does not cause Pd to freeze?

It's all about users who don't want to read helpfiles and refuse to learn 
anything and whose opinion is still important, I don't know why.

> Or, that an infinite increase in uncertainty would dull the users' 
> senses so much that they could no longer tell the difference between an 
> operational and frozen patch?

You have to question the infinite increase in uncertainty. Why was this 
said? is Martin assuming [o] to be an abbreviation for every possible 
current or future word that may start by [o] ? And somehow at once the 
user can't possibly be bothered to open the help file to figure what "o" 

> Pd is already a secret language for initiates.  Even your hypothetical 
> beginner is required to guess the name and functionality of what should 
> be a standard object.  But I imagine the work everyone is doing on 
> organizing libraries by category will go a long way towards remedying 
> that.

A system of mutually-exclusive categories is not very hyperlinked... 
multiple tags per class is a way that is a lot more helpful in getting 
people to find what they need, as there is usually more than one useful 
tag to put on a class, and a system of mutually-exclusive categories only 
allows one such word at the expense of others.

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