[PD] Multiblob and matrices...

Simon Ball sballmada at googlemail.com
Wed Apr 8 14:01:35 CEST 2009 

Thanks for these, that's made it much clearer.

However, in my version of pd (0.40.3-extended - mac, OSX 10.4.11) the
[pix_blobtracker] doesn't seem to load. Is this a subpatch that makes use of
multiblob that I don't have, or is it an object that I am missing?

On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 8:28 PM, >---------------<[O:O]>---------------< <
benjah at free.fr> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> 2 examples +/- from help patches that may help
>
> ++
> Benjamin
>
> Simon Ball a écrit :
>
>> Thanks for the response. However, I am still struggling with this. I
>> probably need a much more basic explanation. Sorry.
>>
>> I assume that the patches you've provided (greatly appreciated) collate
>> the data in someway in order for me to be able to unpack it? However, I'm
>> not sure that I even understand exactly how 'unpack' and 'route' work, which
>> is obviously a problem!
>>
>> If anyone can provide a more simplified explanation I would really
>> appreciate it. I'm not that familiar with programming, so layman's terms are
>> all I can manage!
>>
>> Thanks
>> Simon
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 2:14 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig <zmoelnig at iem.at<mailto:
>> zmoelnig at iem.at>> wrote:
>>
>>    Simon Ball wrote:
>>    > Hi List
>>
>>
>>    hi.
>>    it seems like i received this email multiple times...
>>
>>    >
>>    > However, there are few areas I am still confused about. First of
>>    all, I am
>>    > unsure of how to extract muliple co-ordinates from
>>    [pix_multiblob]. I
>>    > understand that the data from multiblob is collated within a
>>    matrix. I am
>>    > able to see this in the pd window when I print. However, I am
>>    unsure how to
>>    > use a matrix. Is there a certain object that I should be sending
>>    to from
>>    > [pix_multiblob]? And in turn, how would I convert the matrix into xy
>>    > co-ordinates.
>>
>>
>>    there is a separate library dedicated to the kind of matrices
>>    output by
>>    [pix_multiblob]; it's called "iemmatrix".
>>
>>    however, you should have an understanding of matrices in order to
>>    use it.
>>
>>    matrices of this form are simple messages which you can treat like any
>>    other message.
>>    attached are two examples on how to extract the rows of a matrix (and
>>    pix_multiblob will give you one row per blob; so this is interesting
>>    data), one using iemmatrix ([pix_rows]) and one using zexy
>>    ([pix_rowz]).
>>    it is left as an exercise for the user to make a pd-vanilla
>>    implementation.
>>
>>    just send the mtx-output of [pix_multiblob] to the object, and you
>>    will
>>    get nice lists for each blob, starting with the index of the blob
>>    (zero-based) and then comes the data.
>>    use [route] to filter the relevant blobs and [unpack] to access
>>    the data.
>>
>>
>>    >
>>    > In the archives I found a response to similar a question saying
>>    there was a
>>    > gem example with matrix and multiblob, but I can not seem to
>>    find it. Any
>>    > idea what and where this is?
>>    >
>>
>>    there's an abstraction called [pix_blobtracker] which uses
>>    [pix_multiblob] and matrix operations to track blobs.
>>
>>
>>    >
>>    > Hope thats not too many questions. And is it easier for the list
>>    if I divide
>>    > questions up (for archive purposes perhaps)?
>>    >
>>
>>    personally i would prefer separate threads for separate questions for
>>    starters. it always ends in confusion, but we could try to delay
>>    this...
>>
>>
>>    gmsdr
>>    IOhannes
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