[PD] Pdpedia and random generation

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

There are lots of good ideas worth trying.  We've talked about it a  
lot, we just need someone to take charge of it.  I am just too  
overloaded to handle pdpedia on top of everything else.  Who wants to  
own it?

.hc

On Apr 1, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Jean-Noël Montagné wrote:

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>> standards on how articles should be formatted and what kind of
>> information should be presented.
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> yes I agree. At the origin in 2006..., I have suggested to some  
> french PDers the following features:
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> * a lexicon-dictionary about objects/externals/abstractions ( Done)
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> * a category search portal ( one of the most important feature for  
> pd newbies ), like in Wikipedia portal http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipédia:Catégories 
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> Example of category search:  
> PD==>Graphics==>Video==>Live==>Effects==>Blending==> pix_add / 
> pix_subtract /pix_diff /pix_composite/ pix_multiply/ PDP_blend  
> ( fiction...)
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> * multilingual structure as Wikipedia ( very important for  
> educational uses in the world where people will stay with commercial  
> software just for this reason ( France for example)) (Done)
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> future options, when the database will be completed enough:
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> * tools or wiki tags for visualizing patches ( parsing of the patch  
> code to create an image of the patch, server side) and downloading  
> text patches from PDpedia
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> * Pdpedia database embedded with PD extended ( when completed) for  
> offline consulting
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> * in PD: a contextual help with access to the related pdpedia page  
> (in PD itself or online)
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> About the formatting of one page, I have suggested the rubriques:
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> Nature of the element (object/external/abstraction/
> Short Definition
> Generalities (long definition)
> Compatibility ( wich versions of pd)
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> Inlets
> Outlets
> Arguments
> Messages
> *
> Warnings and incompatibilities
> Tricks and alternative ways to do it
> Examples ( expanded help file+ other examples with pictures), links  
> to video examples
> Tutorials on this element, links to videos
> Associated objects, related objects
> Equivalents in similar open source softwares
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> Author(s) of the object, links
> Contributors of this page.
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> name
> ultra short description
> abbreviation
> library
> author
> developer
> release version
> release date
> dependencies
> license
> website
> programming language
> platform (i.e Windows, Mac OS X, GNU/Linux)
> operating system (i.e. Windows XP, Windows 2000, Mac OS X 10.3,  
> Debian, etc.)
> language
> data type
> distribution (i.e. Pd-vanilla, pd-extended, pure:dyne, etc)
> link to the code
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> about the work to do on the PDpedia, I have suggested to organize  
> PDpedia Parties:
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> It's a on day or two days fiesta gathering, where PDers decide:
> -first : how many objects they will document, and wich objects ( 5  
> per person during 3 hours for example)
> -then they document individually, in a fiesta atmosphère, during a  
> limited amount of time.
> -then, they create collective(s) performance(s) in a complete fiesta  
> atmosphere
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> I have also suggested that all PD teachers should give time in their  
> workshops for the students to document on PDpedia the object they  
> are discovering.
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> Of course, PDpedia is a long term project. There are also many  
> initiatives like the great FLOSSmanuals, or videopedia to produce  
> tutorials.
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> Because of the 2500 objects/elements, the PDpedia is more on the  
> encyclopedic aspect.
> 2500 objects and more could be completed in many languages in five  
> years, if the community understand how politically important is to  
> help newbies to use such tools with documentation facilities.  
> Documenting is not sometimes very sexy, that's why I suggest to  
> organise PDpedia parties.
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> and yes, I agree, there is a need for some maintainers ( I can not  
> do it at this time), for an antispam system with a captcha or  
> similar stuff.
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> JN
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>> 2009/3/31 Alexandre Porres <porresgmail.com>:
>> > so we need :someone" to manage the system, ok, but then I see  
>> that this
>> > problem is kinda well solved, right?
>> > But how do you all see the writting of articles? Is it growing  
>> out well? I
>> > believe "someone" could also direct how things are going, and  
>> that a main
>> > team could work on it by fomenting its development and all...
>> > right?
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>> Something like a WikiProject on wikipedia? It would be good to have
>> standards on how articles should be formatted and what kind of
>> information should be presented. I see there has been some effort to
>> generate a standard layout for an article on an object, with inlets,
>> outlets, arguments and messages as separate sections; but I can't  
>> find
>> a good article to serve as an example for how all articles should
>> look. The best I can find is:
>> http://wiki.puredata.info/en/dac~
>> http://wiki.puredata.info/en/metro
>> If more articles looked like this, I think pdpedia would be much  
>> more useful.
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>> Do we want pdpedia to just be a reference manual of objects, or do we
>> also want to include design patterns such as the [pack 0 0 0 0
>> 0]/[unpack 0 0 0 0 0] idiom mentioned elsethread, tutorials, good
>> practices and suchlike?
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