[PD] preventing comport freezes
Hans-Christoph Steiner
hans at at.or.at
Fri May 15 06:14:27 CEST 2009
On May 14, 2009, at 6:56 PM, Martin Peach wrote:
> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>> On May 9, 2009, at 2:43 PM, Martin Peach wrote:
>>> Roman Haefeli wrote:
>>>> thanks for the info.
>>>> On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 19:27 +0000, martin.peach at sympatico.ca wrote:
>>>>>> just out of curiosity: if there is a solution, that works well
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> [tcpserver], couldn't it be applied also to [comport]?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe. But I think you should be able to use [comport] with no
>>>>> hardware handshaking enabled and send data even if no cable is
>>>>> attached. Sometimes the absence of one of the two input handshake
>>>>> signals prevents the serial hardware from sending. Also if an
>>>>> error
>>>>> occurred in the reception of serial data it may not be handled
>>>>> properly in [comport]. So I'm not sure what is causing this
>>>>> particular
>>>>> crash, since HC said that it happened when the remote device was
>>>>> disconnected but gave no further detail.
>>>> iirc, on linux at least, [comport] makes pd hang, _whenever_ the
>>>> other
>>>> end disappears. i.e.:
>>>> - pulling out the usb-cable, while the arduino is connected
>>>> - turning off an rfcomm device
>>>
>>>
>>> This looks like something related to the usb interface. I think
>>> pulling out an RS-232 cable has no effect, as the serial driver
>>> can only be closed by [comport]. With a usb adapter the usb driver
>>> can close the port.
>>> I suspect that the comport_tick routine, which is called
>>> periodically to check for received characters, tries to access the
>>> serial port after the usb driver has closed it.
>>> The non-Windows code in comport_tick looks like this:
>>>
>>> unsigned char serial_byte;
>>> fd_set com_rfds;
>>> int count = 0;
>>>
>>> FD_ZERO(&com_rfds);
>>> FD_SET(fd,&com_rfds);
>>>
>>> while((err=select(fd+1,&com_rfds,NULL,NULL,&null_tv)) > 0)
>>> {
>>> err = read(fd,(char *) &serial_byte,1);
>>> outlet_float(x->x_data_outlet, (t_float) serial_byte);
>>> ++count;
>>> }
>>>
>>> As you can see the select call only checks for the presence of
>>> received characters with com_rfds, and doesn't check the write or
>>> exception status. I suppose the select call should also check the
>>> exception fd_set, as the usb driver has no other way of informing
>>> [comport] that it has closed the port, it should have flagged it
>>> there.
>>> (Although if the fd itself is no longer valid I don't know what to
>>> do...using non-existent file descriptors is a good way to crash Pd)
>>>
>>> ATM I only have 'legacy' RS-232 ports on my hardware so I can't
>>> test it, but I can change the code.
>>>
>>> Martin
>> Ok, quick test shows a couple things:
>> - just using [comport 1 115200] and then yanking the USB out causes
>> the crash, so no data needs to be sent to cause this. This is with
>> a standard Arduino USB.
>
> So the crash most likely occurs when comport_tick is called by the
> timer.
>
>> - in the select() that you highlight, it is just testing before
>> reading, so I am guessing it would not be so useful to do a write
>> test if it is only going to read().
>
> The write test is not needed, but I was thinking that the third
> possible test, the exception test, might give useful info, unless
> the file descriptor has already become invalid, in which case I
> don't know what to do about it, since using a dead file descriptor
> is usually lethal and probably is what is causing the crash.
> How does [hid] react to unplugging of the device?
In [hid] I don't remember doing anything special, I never even used
select(). I am guessing that serial ports behave differently that USB
HID. Serial was designed to be permanently attached, USB was designed
to be hot-pluggable. Here's the read() for example:
while( read (x->x_fd, &(hid_input_event), sizeof(struct
input_event)) > -1 )
I open it using read-only and non-blocking, maybe that has something
to do with it?
x->x_fd = open(block_device, O_RDONLY | O_NONBLOCK);
I just tried a test with just a USB serial adapter, it didn't actually
crash, it just stopped responding and pegged the CPU.
.hc
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