[PD] help_random/seed

IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoelnig at iem.at
Mon Jul 6 11:37:35 CEST 2009


Georg Bosch wrote:
> IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
> 
>> Andrew Faraday wrote:
>>> Just an idea, but if the hardware random number generators use a jittery
>>> oscillator etc. Why not use [noise~] and [snapshot~] followed by some
>>> arithmetic and [int] you could build what I assume would be more random
>>> than the [random] box.
>> weird idea.
>> especially, since [noise~] uses exactly the same pseudo-random algorithm
>> as [snapshot~].
> 
> Snapshot~  outputs random numbers? That would explain a lot of oddities in
> my patches ;)

man, it was early in the morning....

> 
> What does make sense is to use noise *from the adc* with snapshot~ to get
> seeds for your random objects, I think that was what Frank meant with the
> "Can of Beats" patch.

yes that is a perfectly good idea (at least if you can make sure that 
the [adc~] will be hooked up to some real-world soundsource)

and then there is the wide range of time-based seeds (e.g. uptime of the 
computer, system time...)

gf
asdrm
IOhannes
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