Hello Derek and IOHannes, Thank you so much for the advice, I will definitely check all of this out. b/t/w, is there an IRC room that pd'ers hang out in that is generally welcome to newbies? Thanks again! 2009/7/9 IOhannes m zmölnig <zmoelnig at iem.at>: > fgmasdr Josh -- Josh Lawrence http://www.hardbop200.com