[PD] PD t-shirts

Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at at.or.at
Sun Aug 9 20:54:25 CEST 2009 

I think you'll have to bug the PdCon MTL and pdgraz people to get those 
numbers.  You can count on me to order at least two.  And make sure you 
have enough womens' sizes too (i.e. small, xs, etc.)  At PdCon MTL they 
ran out of the women's sizes first.

.hc

harris_pilton at gmx.de wrote:
> all in all about how many tshirts are we talking? my first guess would 
> have been 150 tshirts... but i really cant tell. one should consider 
> that there might be extra tshirts for the us. are there any figures 
> from previous editions?
>
> up to now i saw the orange tshirt with black printing on it. i like 
> that. how about including some alternatives for the new shirts?
>
> greetings, especially to the people in brazil, have a nice time,
>
> max
>
> Am 27.07.2009 um 04:34 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:
>
>>
>> Hey there from Brasil!   Yeah, t-shirts would be great, there are 
>> many people who want them.  They didn't make enough for the 
>> conference, so there are probably people here who would also be 
>> interested.
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> harris_pilton at gmx.de wrote:
>>> hi there,
>>>
>>> is anybody still into the tshirt thing? i think i could help with 
>>> the printing. i'm not good at thinking of designs though. bang-until 
>>> was quite common-sense - afaik there hasnt been lot response on that!?
>>> i wanted to bring up the topic again  - basically because i want a 
>>> pd-tshirt too :)
>>> cheers
>>> Am 06.04.2009 um 06:23 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I like the DIY way.  It would be great if people organized their 
>>>> own fundraisers and bounties.  I think that fits in well with the 
>>>> anarchic nature of Pd.
>>>>
>>>> There are things like cafepress.com for t-shirts and the like.  It 
>>>> is more expensive than doing it yourself, probably, but its 
>>>> easier.  It would be nice to see more than one Pd t-shirt 
>>>> available.  I'd like bang-until and that cake, for example.
>>>>
>>>> .hc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 2, 2009, at 10:38 AM, Ben Baker-Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Kyle,
>>>>>
>>>>> That's much more in line with what I'm looking to do.  I also cannot
>>>>> afford to go to PdCon given that it's all the way in Brazil, and I'm
>>>>> sure the majority of Pd users are in the same boat.  A documentation
>>>>> bounty seems like a good way to encourage people to document, and 
>>>>> give
>>>>> them a way of justifying their time.  And, I agree, probably more
>>>>> worthwhile than paying half of one person's ticket to Sao Paulo.
>>>>>
>>>>> In regards to designs, and printing:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm thinking it might be cheapest (allowing more money to be raised)
>>>>> for me to print the shirts myself.. I just need to come up with a
>>>>> solid price estimate in the next couple days.  Also, this seems more
>>>>> in line with the do-it-yourself attitude of Pd than, say, e-mailing a
>>>>> .Gif file to an internet service and letting it all go through them.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have  couple designs I've drawn up myself, and a few have been
>>>>> submitted to me via this list.  So, hopefully by the end of the
>>>>> weekend, I will upload them to my site and post a link on the list 
>>>>> for
>>>>> feedback.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Ben
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 1:24 AM, Kyle Klipowicz 
>>>>> <kyleklip at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Yes, I agree that the fund should be for a documentation bounty.
>>>>>> I think that Ben (or whoever makes the shirts) should hold the 
>>>>>> money in
>>>>>> trust. Perhaps set up an interest-bearing account to save the 
>>>>>> cash in. Then
>>>>>> create a well-documented (pun?) bounty description of what key 
>>>>>> features are
>>>>>> to be implemented and the financial payment for each.
>>>>>> You could do micropayments for key help patches or examples, say 
>>>>>> $20 US
>>>>>> each, or a big bounty for larger sections such as re-organizing 
>>>>>> existing
>>>>>> patches into a tidy intro library for new uses, with ready-mades 
>>>>>> to go.
>>>>>> I think this would be a longer lasting value than paying for 
>>>>>> Pd-con. I'd
>>>>>> love to go myself, but probably cannot afford it...but I'd rather 
>>>>>> see some
>>>>>> solid documentation be built...or have the financial incentive to 
>>>>>> do it!
>>>>>> (Not a capitalist, just a hungry belly).
>>>>>> ~Kyle
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Ben Baker-Smith 
>>>>>> <bbakersmith at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm open to the idea of donating proceeds to PdCon.  But, having 
>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>> been, I have some clarifying questions/concerns.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would really prefer that any money from sales went toward
>>>>>>> documentation, which in turn will increase useability and make 
>>>>>>> PD more
>>>>>>> accessible to new users.  Does the convention encourage/promote
>>>>>>> documentation?  Is time spent at the convention trying to 
>>>>>>> increase the
>>>>>>> existing body of literature?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If so, then I'm all for it.  I just don't want to settle on 
>>>>>>> PdCon if
>>>>>>> it's only useful to attendees.  (of course, I understand that in a
>>>>>>> good open-source community knowledge gained by any members 
>>>>>>> contributes
>>>>>>> in some way to the knowledge of the group... but I'm talking more
>>>>>>> formal documention rather than more answers on the mailing list)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Glad to hear the interest.  I'm still looking into the best way 
>>>>>>> to go
>>>>>>> about printing, selling, and distributing.
>>>>>>> If someone wants to partner up on this I'd be happy for the help 
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> added input.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Ben
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Alexandre Castonguay
>>>>>>> <acastonguay at artengine.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Ben, all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We did the last batch of t's as a fundraiser for the Convention in
>>>>>>>> Montréal.  We managed to pay for another 1/2 plane ticket with the
>>>>>>>> proceeds :-).  Maybe the same could be done for São Paulo?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The super folks from Graz sent the file they used for the 
>>>>>>>> original t's I
>>>>>>>> should still have it if you want.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> À bientôt,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello List,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm considering designing and selling PD related t-shirts.  I 
>>>>>>>>> haven't
>>>>>>>>> totally worked out the logistics.  Basically I was inspired by 
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> [Bang( shirts that I've seen online, but which are no longer 
>>>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>>>> as far as I can tell.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anyway, if I did so, I would like to donate all of the 
>>>>>>>>> proceeds toward
>>>>>>>>> further PD development, specifically documentation of poorly
>>>>>>>>> documented objects (or example patches, which is basically the 
>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>> thing).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How do you all think would be the best way of going about this?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Should I stockpile the money and then offer it to someone as a 
>>>>>>>>> sort of
>>>>>>>>> grant?  That's less than ideal in my opinion.  I really don't 
>>>>>>>>> know how
>>>>>>>>> to go about this.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any/all input is welcome
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Ben
>>>>>>>>>
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