[PD] Help Docs: element vs. item
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Thu Aug 13 04:57:54 CEST 2009
> > --- On Wed, 8/12/09, Mathieu Bouchard <matju at artengine.ca>
> >> Actually, "selector" would be the most sensible
> column name
> >> for the column that lists "the accepted
> > It would, but there currently aren't column names in
> the pddp template.
> > Are you looking at a different template than the one
> for [float] in
> > pd-ext?
> I'm not looking at a template, why?
Because I'm using the pddp template to revise the help patches. I don't
see a simple way to add column headings to the templates. Were you
suggesting adding column headings, or something else?
> > Hmm...I don't think these more general terms require
> definitions, because they are superficially describing what
> one types to produce the desired behavior.
> I don't think that it's a good idea to directly connect
> "what you type" with "what you get", except in examples. The
> theory should connect "what you type" with an internal
> representation, and connect the internal representation with
> "what you get", or any other number of intermediate steps,
> whatever is needed to make people distinguish between "a
> symbol" and "the spelling out of a symbol by a user" and
> "the printing out of the symbol by pd" and other things.
> It's more obvious (and more critical) if you think of the
> float situation.
I don't think I understand your point. A float is referred to as
a "float" in the help patches. The patches don't refer to a "float
message," or "float selector." So I don't see a problem with how
float is handled in the current docs.
So I wouldn't connect "what you type" with "what you get" in the case
of float, but I don't see the problem of doing this with "the set message."
> > There's an implicit step when the term "message"
> is used (i.e., typing something in a message box and sending
> it to the object). But if you look at the Max docs
> where they say, "the word 'set' followed by a number",
> there's not even that.
> And so... how are the Max docs related to how Pd should be
I thought I could leave it unwritten:
But if you look at the Max docs where they say, "the word 'set' followed
by a number", there's not even that. Yet the wording is clear, succinct,
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