[PD] call for translations for new Pd GUI

Mathieu Bouchard matju at artengine.ca
Fri Aug 21 22:25:48 CEST 2009

On Fri, 21 Aug 2009, András Murányi wrote:

> ;o) yes first of all "ordinateur"... it's great how French are keeping 
> their language alive and independent,

It depends: there are essentially two large mother-language French areas 
in the world, the European one, and the North-American one, and one big 
linguistic clash between the two, is how they accept English words into 
French. They don't agree at all on what to allow from English. The 
Académie is permissive about English in a society that is permissive about 
English, and the Office (www.olf.gouv.qc.ca) tends to repress English and 
coin new words, in a society that knows itself to be too permissive about 

IIRC, The Office got «stop» signs to be changed to «arrêt stop» signs and 
eventually to plain «arrêt» signs, even though all French dictionaries 
list noun «stop» and verb «stopper», and even though everybody concerned 
by the signs know the word «stop» already. However, European French words 
«sponsor» «sponsoriser» «label» «labélisation» are non-existent in 
North-American French, where they won't replace the thoroughly-established 
«commanditaire» «commanditer» «étiquette» «étiquetage».

> all terms (except the infamous Bang...) to Hungarian but then I thought 
> it's just no go because most of Pd will still be English and element 
> names will forever remain english as well as most of the help files, 
> tutorials, abstractions etc... So what i did was that i have discarded 
> my Hungarian translations and left the English ones for these.

That's what is called a Catch-22. If you don't take a good breath and 
dive, you won't get to the other side.

> It's like, if a box is labeled "Emergency Survival Kit" the instructions 
> should not tell people to look for the box called "Vészhelyzeti Túlélÿÿ 
> Csomag" as they might never find it 8-) It has nothing to do with the 
> American Empire! ;o)

No, it has to do with both the Catch-22 and the American Empire.

It's a deadlock you won't get out of until you handle both halves of the 
problem at the same time. You can't run your patch either, if you rename a 
receive-symbol but don't rename the corresponding send-symbol at once ;) 
it's a fact of life.

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