[PD] new GUI screenshots

Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at at.or.at
Tue Sep 15 01:50:02 CEST 2009

On Sep 14, 2009, at 3:38 PM, András Murányi wrote:

> It looks so nice on the Mac...! ;o)
> It's a pity it looks way less 21th Century here on Hardy...
> Well, at least Carmen's peak-meters made it into a mainstream  
> branch. (I didn't actually check that they are the same, maybe they  
> aren't...)
> fyi I have attached the screenshot.
> I have attached another screenshot that has the original visual peak- 
> meters from Carmen. Note how they were put on the same row to save  
> space (usually i'd rather group them the other way, but here the  
> point was to save some space).
> Nice. However, I don't feel I need so much to save space above the  
> Console. Maybe on some limited resolutions?
> Btw I can see it's a snapshot of 2009/09/06. Do I understand right  
> that 1) dd is being actively developed these days 2) some code from  
> it gets its way to pd?

DD is GPL and Pd is BSD so code can only flow Pd->DD.

> Midi In/Out switches are an interesting concept. How did you think  
> of that? Do you understand why those switches were never added to Pd  
> and no-one seemed to ever suggest them? (as far as I recall...)
> ;o) Yes I think I understand... so far it seems I am one of the very  
> few midi-intensive folks out these days. On the other hand, pd's GUI  
> has been pretty much simplistic so far, what I mean is that not many  
> thing seem to have been suggested and added over the years.
> Console hiding looks like a neat idea, but somehow, I never want it,  
> because it's important to watch the console all of the time, to  
> figure out what's going on.
> You're right. If I suddenly get console-phobia however, I have so  
> many ways to hide it. Resizing is one of them.
> - I would omit the IN/OUT meter switch. Can we? Or is this a CPU-hog?
> Depends... I suppose it was more of a hog back when the switch was  
> introduced. Computers are so much faster now. But it would be better  
> to measure it than to speculate.
> Cool. Unfortunately I've never done TCL and my C is somewhat  
> archaic... that's why I cannot volunteer to do these.

I knew nothing of Tcl before Pd.  Its a little wierd but pretty easy.


> In my graphics they are just simple switches but I'm not sure it is  
> possible to 'blink' those switches.
> All switches are blinkable in the Linux version, and perhaps on all  
> platforms, but it's not a good idea because the default looks of  
> those switches are different from platform to platform and now they  
> can vary according to theme. On Windows, the box is white and stays  
> white, but on Linux, it defaults to the overall background colour,  
> and turning it on makes it either dark grey or red. Given that, it's  
> hard to also make it an indicator of something else at the same  
> time, with colours that will be meaningful for everybody, etc.
> But what would the indicator actually indicate?
> They would blink on MIDI IN/OUT activity.
> The switches would enable/disable MIDI input/output.
> If not, then we could have separate switches and LEDs. - A LOAD  
> meter. Is this a CPU hog?
> Probably not any more than the peak meters, but this would have to  
> be measured too.
> If not, can we have it on the Pd window? (It is quite hidden under  
> the Media menu, imho also because Media is a quite fuzzy name.)
> As you can see, I have removed the Media menu. The options in it  
> have gone into "Preferences" in the File menu (or Apple menu); otoh  
> the test-audio and load-meter patches are now accessible from the  
> Help menu.
> Cool! While I think I completely understand the advantages of having  
> an independent development (namely DesireData) I will be personally  
> happy to see you positively engaging in pd GUI development as well.  
> (I hope you take it right!)
> Thanks,
> Andras
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