[PD] Pd-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 120

[Dan Wilcox]

On Nov 4, 2009, at 4:20 PM, dmotd wrote:

> oh come now, i really commiserate with a
> bad work situation, but i have a hard
> time really sympathising with anyone
> taking on work from a large arts
> beurocracy. it is often the case that
> you leave your passion at the door - and
> i have found that there are many people
> with less a commitment to creation and
> creativity that fulfill these rolls far
> better than artists do.
>
> - sorry dan, its awful working somewhere
>  you hate, but i'm sure there are many
>  folks that could fill your shoes.
>
> to say that there is a future making a
> certain artwork is as vague as
> suggesting that an invention is
> commercially viable. if you *have* to
> make artwork, then you probably will,
> outside of economic imperative, and its
> more than likely you will pay for its
> existence and continued existence
> thereafter.
>
> but if you are prepared to forgo the
> creative challenges and use skills in
> ways that make you employable. then
> there are a number of ways to do so, and
> most likely there are many small
> creative organisations in your area that
> require someone with both creative and
> technical talent - and more often than
> not their application of your talents
> will challenge and push you into areas
> you are not currently aware.
>
> and besides if you have the right
> personality type and the essense of some
> talent than there's a good chance you
> will get all accesses to the inner
> sanctum of 'art'. just don't hold your
> breath.
>
> all i'd like really like to say on this
> topic is keep an open mind and strong
> focus on quality work, you may never
> support yourself financially but you
> will become a stronger artist for it.
>
> i don't usually make an effort to
> respond to social agenda - hopefully
> this is a rarity.
>

You're totally right .. that's why I'm pretty much done at this  
point.  I feel stupid for complaining about it really, but the  
question was asked and I felt like sharing my current situation.   
There is a definite difference between the artists and the engineers  
that work at these places.  For most, it's just a job.  I can't really  
see things like that and it's hard not to invest energy I probably  
don't need to.

I too agree that you'll make better art by the skin of your teeth then  
in the comfy confines of academia / commercial work.  It's definitely  
time to focus on quality work .. hell, I just want to be able to focus  
on my own work at all.

> Daniel Wilcox wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 2:23 PM, <pd-list-request at iem.at> wrote:
>>
>>
>>    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>    From: "Jo o Pais" <jmmmpais at googlemail.com>
>>    To: "Adityo Pratomo" <quietdidit at gmail.com>, PDlist <Pd-list at iem.at 
>> >
>>    Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:27:33 +0100
>>    Subject: Re: [PD] life as a new media artist
>>    Hi,
>>
>>    I suggest you keep your day job maintaing networks. it's much  
>> more well
>>    paid than art jobs, which means that you can work less and have  
>> more time
>>    for you. plus, the frustration of not being involved in art  
>> gives you
>>    energy to sit down and work on your things when you finally  
>> manage it. you
>>    don't waste those artistic thoughts somewhere else, like  
>> producing a
>>    concert or something.
>>    Unless you've already good well-known in the field, and are able  
>> to get a
>>    "regular" amount of paid comissions/projects done.
>>
>>
>>
>> I an second that statement.
>>
>> I'm working for Ars Electronica right now and I've basically  
>> discovered that
>> working in the field blows.  My energy has been wasted on boring
>> commercial-oriented stuff and I don't have any energy for my own  
>> work ... I
>> wish I was delivering chinese food again.  Plus the network admin  
>> job probably
>> pays far better then mine. *sigh*
>>
>>
>>
>>    I make a living mainly as an engraver for scores (classical/ 
>> modern/film
>>    music). it's not very well paid, but I can maintain my lifestyle  
>> for the
>>    time being (single guy sharing a flat with no family), and now  
>> and then buy
>>    equipment. although in the future I'll have a lousy pension for  
>> sure.
>>
>>    Jo o Pais
>>
>>
>>        Hmm, I see. Looks like we have to have a day job right? Just  
>> curious,
>>        is
>>        there anyone have a day job in a field that has no relation  
>> with art?
>>        Like
>>        for example, I myself, I work as a network consultant. And  
>> then use my
>>        spare
>>        time to do some art stuff.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dan Wilcox
>> danomatika
>> www.robotcowboy.com
>
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Dan Wilcox
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