[PD] Finding "$0" and dealing with it in messages

[Alexandre Porres]

> Calling this an exception creates
> the impression, that $1 in a message
> is the same as in an object.

Hmm, I see you have a point! But I am just used to consider "$0" and "$1, $2
... $n" different/separate things, being "$0" solely a locality sintax.

Putting them as separate concepts I see "$1, $2 ... $n" as two different
things wether in messages or objects, and that "$0" is just useless in
messages.

Anyway, I am cool with what needs to be done in order to put "$0" in
messages, I still think it's a bit of an unnecessary hassle, but it ain't
that much of a big deal after all.

The thing that had no other way around was using the Find feature to
actually find them, so I thought about bringing this all up: the hassle and
the problem.

I now see that uncheking "whole word" in the new version is just another
"way around" rather than actually getting the Find feature to look for "$0",
or even for the window number once we explicitly tell it which one it is.

So, nerverminding about "$0" in messages, I would still make a point here
for the Find feature to be able to find "$0", I hope it isn't much hassle
getting it to do so.

Thanks a bunch folks!
Cheers
alex


On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Roman Haefeli <reduzierer at yahoo.de> wrote:

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> Am 12.11.09 17:21 schrieb "Alexandre Porres" unter <porres at gmail.com>:
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> > But I totally disagree, I have been teaching a lot basic Pd around, and
> people
> > always get confused and think they can just throw "$0" in messages. So I
> have
> > to state and reinforce that there is an exception that it doesn't work on
> > messages.
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> Calling this an exception creates the impression, that $1 in a message
> is the same as in an object.
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> > Without an exception at all, it should be easier to get it, as I
> > understand.
>
> Agreed. But currently, the only thing that makes $0 in a message
> exceptional
> is the fact, that it has no meaning at all. Making it be replaced by the
> canvas identifier wouldn't make it less exceptional at all.
>
> roman
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