[PD] Max4Live... How about Pd4Live?

[fred-ordi]

For sure but anyway max4live is much more than audio communication, it's 
a perfect integration or mix of two paradigms, where ableton live takes 
the more relevant advantages of traditional ergonomy and powerfull 
features developed for production: ergonomy mixing, editing, touching, 
saving not only sound bits but also -this is the point - control 
parameters, with no difference at all between the ones from live or max...
This make production much more easy, faster and intuitive than any 
combination of actual existing opensource environment. In fact, to me, 
Ableton is actually providing all the ergonomy relevant for production 
which where not developped by Cycling74 but that every maxer were 
waiting for, and particularly a powerfull timeline strongly connecte to 
Max environment: this only a fusion and I think that commercial 
companies have done a real advance here (it was certainly a hard job to 
do that in short time, even if we were waiting for it since the 
beginning of Max - let say v. 0.2 ;)
So, I suggest to not minimise this advance. To me, this step as big as 
the one did Digidesign when releasing the first version of Protools 
(which was not only considering audio features, but ergonomy, a so 
important point when talking about musical instruments...) - or the 
wellknown "Debian for everybody"... this require time, and, as you know, 
time is...
So, the question is: how long should we wait to make it opensource ?
I'm optimist even if we had to wait more or less 20 years for a 
opensource realease - Ardour or so - and linux is so young !).
I'm patient and learned to be a philosophe, I still have the same 
problem for Patchwork (PW, PWGL or OpenMusic) working in linux ;)

Fred

cyrille henry wrote:
> you can use a pd patch with max, using the pd~ object.
> so you can imagine pd4max4live...
> ;-)
> 
> Cyrille
> 
> 
> Jeffrey Concepcion a écrit :
>> Is it possible to integrate Pd with Ableton Live in a way similar to 
>> Max4Live, as a Live/Pd user (newbie really) this will be a very 
>> important issue in my work. As far as i know, Max4live includes many 
>> instruments that can be opened up in a Max canvas (similar to Pd) 
>> environment for editing, as well as allowing additional access to the 
>> inner workings of Live, http://www.ableton.com/maxforlive. I just 
>> wanted to verify if there is (or going to be) any movement to allow 
>> for such integration. i am already aware of Jack for sending audio 
>> directly from pd to live and vice versa(not sure about midi 
>> capabilities), but i'm refering to truly open possibilities that this 
>> type of integration will allow.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>    Jeff
>>
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