[PD] pd-gui-rewrite testing
Hans-Christoph Steiner
hans at at.or.at
Tue Jan 12 23:30:42 CET 2010
So based on what they said in tcl-mac, we just need to test for
'AppKit' and only do the $mymenu.apple stuff if using Tk Carbon (i.e.
no "AppKit" in [winfo server .] ). I added two new functions for
dealing with the special Apple menus:
http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data?view=rev&revision=12970
.hc
On Jan 12, 2010, at 8:44 AM, Rich E wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am forwarding this to the tcl-mac list too, as this question is
> probably more appropriate there.
>
> On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 12:29 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at
> > wrote:
>
> On Jan 9, 2010, at 5:37 PM, Rich E wrote:
>
>>
>> Still in OS X 10.6. I don't have one of these problems with Pd-
>> devel-0.43 (dec 15) nightly build, so it must all be because of the
>> tk/cocoa version that you mention. I'm not sure how to report it a
>> tcl mailing list, as I don't know where the code is that implements
>> these things.
>>
>> Does it make sense that the arrow keys are detected differently in
>> Tk/Cocoa, so they are just sent to pd's gui C code as spaces?
>
> Not to me... it should be the same, that's why its worth reporting
> to tcl-mac. You don't need to know the exact code that's causing
> the problem. I read that list too, so I can fill in the details. I
> just don't have access to a 10.6 machine these days.
>
>> As for the text color issue in the audio settings, you'll have to
>> point me towards what is controlling that. I'll send you a
>> screenshot after this email.
>
> Check out dialog_audio.tcl. Its still mostly the original code, so
> it can be scary. ;)
>
>> Do you know how I can force configure to use Tcl/Tk 8.5.7/Carbon?
>
> If you put a version of Tcl/Tk 8.5.7/Carbon frameworks into /Library/
> Frameworks, it should use them over the build in ones.
>
> How do I get the Carbon-specific version (or know that it is not
> Cocoa)? I built and installed Tcl/Tk 8.5.8, but I don't see any Tcl/
> Tk 8.5.8/Carbon framework, or any directions on how to build it
> specifically.
>
> I think it would be best for me to test this before reporting any
> bugs, although it seems clear enough this is where the problem lays
> for building Pd (dev branch) from source on Snow Leopard.
>
> - rich
>
>
> But that means using the Makefile in packages/darwin_app and
> running "make install". For development, I just rename a nighly
> build as "Pd-devel.app" then inside the package, remove some guts
> and symlink it to my pd-gui-rewrite/0.43 sources:
>
> hans at palatschinken.at.or.at:src > ls -l /Applications/Pd-devel.app/
> Contents/Resources/
> total 152
> lrwxr-xr-x 1 hans staff 3 2010-01-05 14:27 Scripts -> bin/
> -r--r--r-- 1 hans staff 47204 2008-08-14 20:03 VolumeIcon.icns
> -r--r--r-- 1 hans staff 545 2008-07-21 13:53 Wish.rsrc
> lrwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 59 2010-01-05 14:32 bin -> /Users/hans/
> code/pure-data/branches/pd-gui-rewrite/0.43/src/
> dr-xr-xr-x 13 hans staff 442 2009-12-15 08:41 doc/
> dr-xr-xr-x 180 hans staff 6120 2009-12-15 08:52 extra/
> dr-xr-xr-x 6 hans staff 204 2009-12-15 08:41 include/
> -r--r--r-- 1 hans staff 42741 2008-02-14 18:14 pd-file.icns
> -r--r--r-- 1 hans staff 37100 2008-02-14 18:14 pd.icns
> lrwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 58 2010-01-05 14:31 po -> /Users/hans/
> code/pure-data/branches/pd-gui-rewrite/0.43/po/
> dr-xr-xr-x 3 hans staff 102 2009-12-15 08:41 share/
> lrwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 63 2010-01-05 14:31 startup -> /Users/
> hans/code/pure-data/branches/pd-gui-rewrite/0.43/startup/
>
> .hc
>
>
>> I'll use the nightly build in the meantime and let you know what
>> comes up.
>>
>> -rich
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 4:40 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner
>> <hans at at.or.at> wrote:
>>
>> First off, which platform? Is this still Mac OS X 10.6? If so,
>> 10.6 has a built-in custom version of Tcl/Tk 8.5.7 that uses Cocoa
>> for the back end rather than Carbon. Tcl/Tk 8.6 will only use this
>> Cocoa backend, but will work on Mac OS X 10.5. It would be good to
>> flush out these bugs and report them to the tcl-mac list so that
>> they can get fixed.
>>
>> One thing to try is using one of the nightly builds, which include
>> Tcl/Tk 8.5.7/Carbon. I think they should work on 10.6:
>> http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/
>>
>> On Nov 16, 2009, at 1:55 PM, Rich E wrote:
>>
>> Hi List, Hans,
>>
>> I've been using the pd-gui-rewrite-0.43 svn for a couple days now
>> and here are some notes I've taken when finding various bugs (is
>> the better sent to the pd-dev list?):
>>
>> • In Audio Settings, the text in the drop down menus is hardly
>> visible because it is very light grey
>>
>> Never seen that, screenshot?
>>
>>
>> • there is a new menu item called 'apple' with "about pd" and
>> preferences"
>>
>> Known issue with the Tk/Cocoa, haven't found a workaround yet.
>>
>>
>> • editing an object name:
>> ‣ moving with arrows adds a space to the end, but does not move
>> within the object name
>>
>> Hmm, can't reproduce, Tk/Cocoa issue?
>>
>>
>> • opening "about pd" gives an error:
>> ‣ Error: can't read "pd_myversion": no such variable"
>> ‣ an't read "pd_myversion": no such variable
>> can't read "pd_myversion": no such variable
>> while executing
>> "regsub -all PD_VERSION $bigstring2 $pd_myversion bigstring3"
>> (procedure "::pd_menucommands::menu_opentext" line 15)
>> invoked from within
>> "::pd_menucommands::menu_opentext "$dirname/$basename""
>> (".txt" arm line 1)
>> invoked from within
>> "switch -- [string tolower [file extension $basename]] {
>> ".txt" {::pd_menucommands::menu_opentext "$dirname/
>> $basename"
>> } ".c" {::..."
>> (procedure "menu_doc_open" line 4)
>> invoked from within
>> "menu_doc_open doc/1.manual 1.introduction.txt"
>> (menu invoke)
>>
>> Its not implemented yet... I was hoping to make "About Pd" a pd
>> patch.
>>
>>
>> I have some time on my hands now that I finished my Master's, and
>> frankly I think the pd-vanilla GUI is unpleasant, so I could learn
>> tcl/tk and help out, if needed.
>>
>> That would be great! Your reports have already been helpful. I'm
>> going to be in pretty deep this month till its finished and merged
>> into Miller's 0.43 version. He's been relatively scarse on the
>> lists, but we've been working thru this stuff off-list.
>>
>> .hc
>>
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