[PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite 0.43 status: usable

[cyrille henry]

Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :
> 
> On Jan 13, 2010, at 11:39 AM, cyrille henry wrote:
> 
>> IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit :
>>>
>>> this is how 0.43 currently looks.
>> ok
> 
> The look of the font is largely based on what fonts you have installed 
> and what fonts Tcl/Tk finds and assigns to "courier".  That is a flaky 
> process, and something that has changed in Tcl/Tk 8.5.  I highly 
> recommend installing the font "Inconsolata", its in Debian, Ubuntu, 
> Fedora, etc.  It makes Pd look really nice, and pd-gui-rewrite will use 
> it automatically if it can find it.
i install ttf-inconsolata, and still have the same error and same look.
(?)

> 
>>> but i've got this message in pd log :
>>> WARNING: Font family 'Courier' not found, using default (courier)
> 
> This means that Tk could not find a font called "Courier" on your system 
> and is using the Tk automagic font called 'courier'.  Tk has three of 
> these automagic fonts called Courier, Times, and Helvetica.  How they 
> are handled has changed in 8.5.  They used to show up in [font 
> families], now they don't IIRC.  These three automagic fonts are 
> guaranteed to exist, but they are automagically mapped to some font on 
> the system, and those fonts they are mapped to are not guaranteed to be 
> the same font as the name used for the automagic font.  This is a source 
> of lots of font troubles in GNU/Linux, that's why there is some font 
> detection logic included in 0.43.  So it'll detect and use good fonts 
> like Inconsolata.
> 
> If you think you can make the font handling work better on GNU/Linux, I 
> encourage you to do it.  Federico and I have done what we can.
> 
> FYI: I switched back this branch to default to bold fonts (shudder...) 
> in preparation for the merge into vanilla.
cool

> 
>>> i take your "look better" for slight sarcasm here, though i don't think
>>> it looks that bad (apart from the non-bold font)
>> are the sometimes color changing line a feature????
> 
> I think its a feature, but it should be more subtle.  It needs to be 
> tweaked, its not done yet.
ok

> 
>> why did "clear printout" disappear?
> 
> Edit->Clear Console and Ctrl-Shift-L
> 
>> do you think "DSP" is more clear than "compute audio"?
> 
> What if you are not working with audio but doing other kinds of digital 
> signal processing?  The message is called 'pd dsp 1'.  Having the same 
> thing named three different ways makes no sense (Pd window checkbox 
> "compute audio", Media menu "audio on/off", pd message "pd dsp 1").  So 
> now its called DSP all three places.
> 
> If you don't like the new Pd window, take the file "pdwindow.tcl", 
> rename it to "pdwindow-plugin.tcl" and put it in your Pd path.  Then 
> make your own custom Pd window.  Here's the steps:
> 
> - rename the namespace from 'pdwindow' to something else
> - delete these public procs: ::pdwindow::create_window, pdtk_post, 
> pdtk_pd_dsp, pdtk_pd_meters, pdtk_pd_dio, using "rename pdtk_post {}"
> - implement those above procs with those names

well, i also don't really read this text, so i do not fell the need to change it on my computer. but i think some peoples who use pd to make sound does not know what is a dsp.

c


> 
> I'd like to see if this is possible.  Let me know if you have troubles, 
> and I'll see what I can fix in the 0.43 code to make it easier to do 
> this kind of thing.
> 
> .hc
> 
>>> there is definitely a bug in the linespacing ("\n" are inserted at will)
>> yep, also.
>>
>> c
>>
>>> fgmadsr
>>> IOhannes
>>
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