[PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite 0.43 status: usable

Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at at.or.at
Tue Jan 19 18:26:18 CET 2010


On Jan 19, 2010, at 1:33 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:

>
>
> --- On Tue, 1/19/10, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at> wrote:
>
>> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>
>> Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite 0.43 status: usable
>> To: "Jonathan Wilkes" <jancsika at yahoo.com>
>> Cc: "PD list" <pd-list at iem.at>
>> Date: Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 5:26 AM
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 18, 2010, at 7:09 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
>>
>>> [Kind of picky...]
>>>
>>> In the console, there's a checkbox with the clickable
>> text "DSP."  I know
>>> acronyms are normally capitalized, but in this case if
>> the text read
>>> "dsp", the tk label/checkbox would accurately reflect
>> the message one
>>> sends to pd to turn audio on and off (with the
>> checkbox fulfilling the 0/1 argument).
>>>
>>> I think someone complained recently that DSP would be
>> less clear to a
>>> beginner than "compute audio."  I think that's
>> true, so if the beginner
>>> has to read a help file to figure out what it means,
>> they might as well
>>> learn the message "dsp 0" and "dsp 1" at the same time
>> (and be reminded of
>>> the _exact_ selector everytime they look at the
>> console).
>>
>> "compute audio" is easier to understand, but it then
>> doesn't match the 'pd dsp' message or the Media menu
>> items.  I think overall, its easier if people learn
>> that DSP means computing audio as well as other things, and
>> the term DSP is used consistently throughout. I don't have a
>> strong feeling on upper vs lower case on DSP tho.
>
> Well it's definitely a minor distinction-- I just think that the lower
> case reflects what's going on under the hood more closely, which is a
> good thing.
>
> Something else I've been wondering about...is there any reason the
> top of the console couldn't be a pd canvas or a gop?  As it is, it's  
> just
> two [tgl]s, two [vu]s, and maybe a [bng].  Other than the DIO button  
> it's just a [dac~], [adc~], and [s pd], right?

It could be a GOP, I think all of the properties, about, etc. should  
be Pd patches.  But before doing that, I think we need better support  
for standard Tk widgets within Pd.

.hc


>
> -Jonathan
>
>>
>>> In a similar vein: what about "audiostatus" instead of
>> "DIO"?
>>>
>>> -Jonathan
>>
>> I never use the DIO button and don't really know what it
>> is, so I left it as is ;-)  As far as I can gather its
>> an error light for if there are communications troubles with
>> the audio interface.
>>
>> .hc
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