[PD] midiout / sysex on windows

[Miller Puckette]

I've had trouble getting sysex working in anything except linux using
the classic "oss" interface.  It's on my long do-list to try again with
the other platforms...

cheers
Miller

On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 10:29:58AM -0800, Alex wrote:
> Oh, the max length of input sysex messages for PD is actually more
> like 100 bytes for alsa and 120 for portmidi at least when I did my
> investigation a while ago.  Still too small.
> 
> -Alex
> 
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Alex <x37v.alex at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I had sysex input and output working on my linux machine but I've had
> > a harddrive failure since then and haven't tried with the latest pd
> > build.
> >
> > I think I used [midiout] and I needed to use the ALSA midi instead of
> > portmidi, or something.. ?It has been a little while.
> >
> > One thing to note is that the size of the sysex input buffer is
> > limited to something like 23 bytes, I submitted a change to this but I
> > got little response as far as I can remember. ?It was just another
> > hard-coded higher limit though, the small limit makes PD pretty much
> > useless for parsing most midi sysex dumps like patch dumps from synths
> > [which is what I was trying to do, make a patch editor for the dave
> > smith instrument's evolver].
> >
> > -Alex
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 10:04 AM, ?<martin.peach at sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >> I don't think sysex works on linux either; at least I'm trying to send using
> >> [midiout] using alsa midi and nothing is going through the interface,
> >> whereas [noteout] works fine. On Pd 0.42.5-extended2010105 debian lenny.
> >> I think I should be able to send a list like:
> >>
> >> [240 88 123 247(
> >> |
> >> [midiout]
> >>
> >> ...but it won't.
> >>
> >> Martin
> >>
> >>
> >>> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 09:38:16 -0800
> >>> From: x37v.alex at gmail.com
> >>> To: pd-list at iem.at; pd-dev at iem.at
> >>> Subject: Re: [PD] midiout / sysex on windows
> >>>
> >>> BTW, he is using pd 0.41.4-extended
> >>>
> >>> -Alex
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Alex <x37v.alex at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> > I just tried this myself on a friend's windows machine running a
> >>> > relatively recent version of pd extended, though I'm not exactly sure
> >>> > which one..
> >>> > it gave me an error
> >>> > MidiOut Error 1
> >>> > whenever I tried to send a sysex message out.
> >>> > And there was an error about [sysexin] not being implemented on
> >>> > windows and [midiout] being dangerous.. I'm not sure if midiin worked
> >>> > with sysex or not because i couldn't get the sysex out..
> >>> >
> >>> > Anyone know if this has changed or if there are plans to make sysex
> >>> > i/o work for windows?
> >>> >
> >>> > Thanks,
> >>> > Alex
> >>> >
> >>> > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 7:23 AM, kristof lauwers
> >>> > <pd at kristoflauwers.domainepublic.net> wrote:
> >>> >> hello,
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I was wondering what the current state of midiout is on windows (i'm
> >>> >> working
> >>> >> on Xp, but should make something that works under any recent windows
> >>> >> version) I see some discussion about it in the list archives and forum,
> >>> >> but
> >>> >> it's not clear if it should be working or not right now..
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I tried it on vanilla PD 0.42.5 and in extended 0.4.3. It seems in
> >>> >> vanilla
> >>> >> it does nothing at all. In extended it's sending out something, but not
> >>> >> what
> >>> >> i expect.. (sometimes the 3 bytes i try to send each padded by 2 or 3
> >>> >> 0's,
> >>> >> sometimes nothing at all..)
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Also, it's not very clear what kind of input midiout expects - the
> >>> >> documentation doesn't say anything about that.. i'd guess a list with
> >>> >> first
> >>> >> status byte and then the data bytes?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> if it's not working (yet), are there any alternatives to send sysexes
> >>> >> from
> >>> >> Pd?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> thanks,
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Kristof
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
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