[PD] osx pduino: nothing works

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

I don't have any ATMEGA8 boards anymore, so I am not in a position to  
maintain that stuff.  Perhaps you could just bundle up the version you  
got working, call it StandardFirmataAtmega8 and post it somewhere?

.hc

On Mar 10, 2010, at 3:58 PM, Derek Holzer wrote:

> Once I fixed the baudrate (thx!!!) it works fine. One student has  
> trouble with an ATMEGA328 that I will have to troubleshoot tomorrow.
>
> Good idea to make a specific release, or at least label it in some  
> way that makes it clear. I know it's ugly to support very old  
> hardware, but I think there are a lot of those things out there in  
> the world still.
>
> Best,
> D.
>
> On 3/10/10 7:03 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>
>> Keep in mind this is beta software so you were just a beta tester. It
>> would be great to incorporate your experience into the next release.
>>
>> Perhaps the best way to support the ATMEGA8 is to post a firmware  
>> for it
>> somewhere, like StandardFirmataATMEGA8. It would just be
>> OldStandardFirmata/StandardFirmataV2_0 renamed to  
>> StandardFirmataATMEGA8
>> and with the baud rate of 57600.
>>
>> What is only a question of the ATMEGA8? Or where there other  
>> problems?
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On Mar 10, 2010, at 11:48 AM, Derek Holzer wrote:
>>
>>> Hi HC,
>>>
>>> thanks for clarification. I will try to find some time to stick it  
>>> in
>>> the FLOSS Manual Pduino chapters later on. I did get the ATMEGA8s
>>> running with the new baudrate, now I have a problem with the  
>>> ATMEG328
>>> but I will deal with that tomorrow.
>>>
>>> I tried to get all 12 students using same versions of everything but
>>> you know how hard that can be. What was supposed to be a 10 minute
>>> installation took the entire afternoon, along with questions about
>>> motors, circuits, mechanics and everything else in the middle of
>>> debugging. Not an optimal moment for concentration to fix a  
>>> glitch...
>>> maybe I will stick to hardware-only workshops from now on, computers
>>> are only good for causing ulcers and hairloss!
>>>
>>> I landed here Sunday and started the workshop the next morning so I
>>> had no time to investigate what hardware the school had. I told them
>>> they should upgrade the ATMEGAs they have but you know how long that
>>> takes at any kind of institution ;-)
>>>
>>> Best from Helsinki!
>>> D.
>>>
>>> Quoting Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 10, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Derek Holzer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> List goofballs aside, I think it would be good to clarify all this
>>>>> stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>> The split between the things available on HCs site and what comes
>>>>> with Arduino is quite confusing. I was only using the ones from HC
>>>>> to keep the versions matching.
>>>>
>>>> No argument here, its just a matter of finding the time to do it.  
>>>> With
>>>> Firmata 2.1 the baudrate should be totally stable (that's the big
>>>> change between 2.0 and 2.1), and further updates shouldn't cause
>>>> issues. I'm working on finalizing the Pduino 0.5 release.
>>>>
>>>>> The Arduino-provided Firmata stuff does not contain the Pd objects
>>>>> themselves, and if the Pd objects must match certain Firmata  
>>>>> then it
>>>>> would be good to make a note of that somewhere... maybe on the  
>>>>> site
>>>>> where the Pd stuff is downloaded?
>>>>
>>>> For the latest Pduino, either use the included one, or the one in
>>>> Arduino 0018.
>>>>
>>>>> And besides that, if some Firmata says it supports ATMEGA8 then I
>>>>> believe what it says. I spent half of yesterday smashing my face
>>>>> against the keyboards of 12 students, trying to teach them  
>>>>> something
>>>>> that was broken, and the reason it was broken was not  
>>>>> documented. So
>>>>> yes I get a bit cranky!
>>>>
>>>> Firmata is an Arduino library which fully supports the ATMEGA8.
>>>> StandardFirmata is a firmware that uses the Firmata library that  
>>>> is too
>>>> big for the ATMEGA8. As a teacher, I would highly recommend  
>>>> avoiding
>>>> the ATMEGA8, they are not well supported by the Arduino community.
>>>>
>>>> .hc
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Peace out dudes,
>>>>> D.
>>>>>
>>>>>> 2010/3/10 Derek Holzer <derek at umatic.nl>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Where do I find the matching Pd Firmata objects for the  
>>>>>>> Firmata in
>>>>>>> Arduino
>>>>>>> 18 then?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe all of this could be a bit better documented? ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> ¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido!
>>
>>
>>
>
> -- 
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