[PD] nusmuk_audio WAS: Max Smoother Audio than Pd?

Alexandre Porres porres at gmail.com
Fri Apr 16 08:57:58 CEST 2010

Oh, wasn't the metaphor clear, really?

well, no problem, here you go then... once more...

We don't care to know if someone says; "Hey, I got a clarinet", we wanna
know what he is doing with it, in a sense that it'd make more sense if the
person would come and say; "Hey, check out, look what I do with my
clarinet". The point here is to emphasize the instrument as a tool, a media,
something that you use to make an idea come true... so the point, in the
end, is to present this idea. the media should not be the interesting thing,
but the result!

So maybe you need and want a shitty clarinet to achieve the objective you
have, maybe you need a quite expensive one. Nevertheless, the point is what
you do with it.

As I said, that are things you can only do in Pd... which is basically when
you need to program something. If you dont see that, maybe you dont need it!

And since we need to program it, we are the ones doing the thing, Pd is not
doing much for us. And yeah, you build stuff with it. So maybe you should
not waste your time building things that are already there, why reinvent the
wheel? If you can do something in Pd, it doesn't mean it has to be done in
Pd, or that is easier to do it with it.

So, anyway, if you build something in Pd that does not work, it is your
fault, not Pd's... if you built a clarinet in it that does not do what you
want and need, maybe you should ask a guy who's good at clarinet building...

hope it was clearer now, can't make it clearer than that I guess, by the

take care

2010/4/15 <colet.patrice at free.fr>

> I would care about how the clarinette is sounding, if I or a skilled
> clarinetist
> can't make a melody with it, i would play with noises...
> Selon Alexandre Porres <porres at gmail.com>:
> > > pd is just a tool for learning dsp, there is no such project that show
> how
> > > pd is cool to make people moving on the dance floor.
> >
> > Is that what you are really expecting pd to be or sound like? Well,
> indeed,
> > I disagree Pd would be a proper tool for that. And you are really wrong
> to
> > assume pd is only a tool to study DSP, although it is in fact really good
> > for that as well.
> >
> > Now, you are missing completely the points of using Pd, and if you can't
> > imagine why you would need pd to do things that you can only do in pd,
> maybe
> > pd is not for you... no, it ain't a money maker for the dance floor dj...
> >
> > I see musicians and artist that see why they need to do something in pd
> and
> > ask for help. It is common to have an artist creating a piece that uses
> Pd
> > without knowing how to program it, but working in conjunction with a
> > programmer.
> >
> > And of course, Pd can be only a minor (but essential) thing on the
> > project... you don't need to reinvent the wheel in Pd, or just use Pd if
> you
> > are using it... there is no rule for that... in a sense that I don't see
> > there is such a thing called "pd music".
> >
> > > who is the musician, Pierre Schaeffer, or Pierre Henry?
> >
> > I dont see the point here... Of thousands of people who work with
> computer
> > music/technology, do we only have mostly Pierre Schaeffers out there? Is
> > Pierre Henry the Only guy who gets to be a musician? If someone is using
> pd
> > then he can't be Pierre Henry or many other thousands of people I know
> > besides him that are actually great musicians?
> >
> > And yeah, nobody cares if someone comes out and says; "Hey, look what an
> > amazing I have here, I got a Clarinet!!! And I built it... or someone
> who's
> > really good built it for me!!!". All we want to know is, what do you do
> with
> > it, right? And we don't really care about the Clarinet. And if you don't
> > like it, don't blame it on the clarinet...
> >
> > cheers
> >
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