[PD] networking with Pd (was Re: (no subject))

[Andrew Faraday]

To be honest I'm not worrying about advced networking, just what is of practical benefit for performance, it's definately in the formative stages now. Although it does seem that it's better than netsend and netrecieve for working with more than one connection (I.E. with netsend computer A sends info to computer B, that's it, with client and server Computer A can send info to computers X, Y and Z, who can all send info on the same connection to computer A. But X can't send data to Y.) This could be set to re-broadcast this kind of data, tho. 
 
> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 14:29:07 +0100
> From: errordeveloper at gmail.com
> To: jbturgid at hotmail.com; pd-list at iem.at
> Subject: Re: [PD] networking with Pd (was Re: (no subject))
> 
> metronome broadcast msg is interesting ..
> so you are using netserver/client to do that?
> can you go into some advanced networking with these couple?
> 
> On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 12:35:07PM +0100, Andrew Faraday wrote:
> > 
> > Hey all
> > Out of all that, [netserver] and [netclient] won over, we're working on a couple of abstractions for network conducting including metronome, broadcast messenger and a universal volume modifier. If anyone's interested I can make these available once tested and let you know about the experiences.
> > 
> > > Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 11:43:57 +0100
> > > From: errordeveloper at gmail.com
> > > To: pd-list at iem.at
> > > Subject: Re: [PD] networking with Pd (was Re: (no subject))
> > > 
> > > ALSA library is capable to do that for you,
> > > look in aseqnet(1) manpage.
> > > i haven't had a chance to use it yet myself..
> > > 
> > > On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 09:05:29PM -0300, Ariane stolfi wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > just another question in this subject,
> > > > what do you sugest for sending midi values between two computers
> > > > through ethernet?
> > > > 
> > > > tnx
> > > > ariane
> > > > 
> > > > 2010/4/13 Andrew Faraday <jbturgid at hotmail.com>:
> > > > > Thanks, folks, there's a lot to think about there.
> > > > >
> > > > > Another workshop this evening, so we'll see what we find most useful.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yeah, the lack of a subject was a sheer accident on my part.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > >
> > > > > Andrew
> > > > >
> > > > >> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 09:29:37 +0200
> > > > >> From: zmoelnig at iem.at
> > > > >> CC: pd-list at iem.at
> > > > >> Subject: [PD] networking with Pd (was Re: (no subject))
> > > > >>
> > > > >> is there a reason for omitting the subject?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On 2010-04-12 21:11, Paulo Casaes wrote:
> > > > >> > netsend and netreceive can send any type of message. You should look
> > > > >> > into OSC for your needs.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> well afaics, OSC doesn't give you any advantage with the original
> > > > >> problems.
> > > > >> the problem seems to be related to Pd's messages rather than the
> > > > >> net-objects (e.g. "[blu( -> [send val1 $1(" won't work, but if you use
> > > > >> "[symbol blu(" it will; see the Pd-documentation and the list archives
> > > > >> for why this is so)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > In a related question, what is the difference between netsend and
> > > > >> > sendOSC?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> #0 i don't know whether i have said this before, but just in case:
> > > > >> [sendOSC] is unmaintained and buggy, and i would suggest to not use it.
> > > > >> use mrpeach's [packOSC] and [udpsend] instead.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> #1 they are different objects; [netsend] uses FUDI (which looks just
> > > > >> like Pd-messages) as the application layer protocol, whereas [sendOSC]
> > > > >> oses OSC
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > Can netsend and netreceive be used for OSC?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> no.
> > > > >> they are different, non-compatible application layer protocols (OSC uses
> > > > >> binary data enriched with meta-data, whereas Pd's FUDI is plain text
> > > > >> with a special meaning of semicolon)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> you can probably construct an OSC-message that is parseable as a FUDI
> > > > >> message and vice-versa, but nothing that i would "use".
> > > > >>
> > > > >> fgmasr
> > > > >> IOhannes
> > > > >>
> > > > >
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