[PD] Ever divorce from Tcl/Tk? (Was Re: puredata_gui_design)

András Murányi muranyia at gmail.com
Sun May 2 17:55:43 CEST 2010


2010/4/17 Mathieu Bouchard <matju at artengine.ca>

> On Fri, 16 Apr 2010, András Murányi wrote:
>
>  One (hard) aspect of GUI design in case of Pd is that the GUI widgets are
>> provided by Tcl/Tk at the moment, which does not allow for such kind of
>> skinning, afaik.
>>
>
> Tcl/Tk up to 8.4 allow some amount of configuration... at least much more
> than has ever been used by anyone in pd.tk.
>
> Tcl/Tk introduced the TkTile toolkit, for which I've heard that the big new
> feature is that you can skin it. I haven't tried it myself. Meanwhile, I'm
> using Pd-Extended with Tcl/Tk 8.5 while, officially, this very same version
> of Pd-Extended is said to "not support" Tcl/Tk 8.5. On top of that, Miller
> still wants to support Tcl/Tk 8.3 for some upcoming releases, and such
> things that were already becoming obsolete in 2003.
>
>
>  There has been talk, however, about migrating to another GUI toolkit.
>>
>
> Talk, talk, talk, it's only talk.
> Arguments, babble, bicker bicker bicker, brouhaha, it's only talk.
>
>
Well, lets be happy we have this wonderful ability to articulate words...
;o)
As it has been mentioned, "anyone" can start porting Pd to another toolkit.
The question for me here is, if Miller, Hans, and other core people are
interested in leaving Tcl/Tk behind, and if yes, how soon?

Andras
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