[PD] puredata.org?

IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoelnig at iem.at
Wed Jun 9 09:24:40 CEST 2010


On 2010-06-08 19:21, Ben Baker-Smith wrote:
> puredata.org resolves to this for me: http://i50.tinypic.com/2rm5kec.jpg
> 
> Iohannes, this sounds just like the discussion we had recently in
> regards to the link on the pd-ring. During that discussion you told me
> that puredata.org had been stolen by domain grabbers.

ah yes,
i still keep confusing all this.
(and it reminds me that i have to get rid of my fake puredata.org entry
in my ns)


however, there is something fishy going on.
let's see what querying the dns gives us:

$ dig puredata.org @a.root-servers.net
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;puredata.org.                  IN      A
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
org.                    172800  IN      NS      b2.org.afilias-nst.org.
org.                    172800  IN      NS      a0.org.afilias-nst.info.
org.                    172800  IN      NS      c0.org.afilias-nst.info.
org.                    172800  IN      NS      d0.org.afilias-nst.org.
org.                    172800  IN      NS      b0.org.afilias-nst.org.
org.                    172800  IN      NS      a2.org.afilias-nst.info.

$ dig puredata.org @b2.org.afilias-nst.org.
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;puredata.org.                  IN      A
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
puredata.org.           86400   IN      NS      a.dns.hostway.net.
puredata.org.           86400   IN      NS      b.dns.hostway.net.
puredata.org.           86400   IN      NS      ns1.mydomain.com.
puredata.org.           86400   IN      NS      ns2.mydomain.com.
puredata.org.           86400   IN      NS      ns3.mydomain.com.
puredata.org.           86400   IN      NS      ns4.mydomain.com.

now comes the tricky part:

$ dig puredata.org @a.dns.hostway.net.
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;puredata.org.                  IN      A
;; ANSWER SECTION:
puredata.org.           14400   IN      A       216.139.212.169
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
puredata.org.           14400   IN      NS      a.dns.hostway.net.
puredata.org.           14400   IN      NS      b.dns.hostway.net.
puredata.org.           14400   IN      NS      a.dns.hostway.net.
puredata.org.           14400   IN      NS      b.dns.hostway.net.

oops, what's that? definitely not the IP-address that it should have.
however, "b2.org.afilias-nst.org." also returned another family of
authoritive nameservers for this domain, namely "ns*.mydomain.com."
querying this returns:

$ dig puredata.org @ns1.mydomain.com.
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;puredata.org.                  IN      A
;; ANSWER SECTION:
puredata.org.           3600    IN      A       193.170.191.182
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
puredata.org.           86400   IN      NS      ns1.mydomain.com.
puredata.org.           86400   IN      NS      ns2.mydomain.com.
puredata.org.           86400   IN      NS      ns3.mydomain.com.
puredata.org.           86400   IN      NS      ns4.mydomain.com.



so what we do have is two conflicting DNS-entries at the ".org" level.

according to whois (e.g. http://www.whois.net/whois/puredata.org), the
domain still belongs to aaj van de ven, who has registered it at
mydomain.com (which resolves correctly to pureadata.info)

i don't know where&why hostway.net. comes into the game (and spoils it)

fgamsdr
IOhannes








> 
> Regardless,  puredata.org does not send me to puredata.info
> 







> 
> Ben Baker-Smith
> --
> http://bitsynthesis.com
> 
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> well, for me from Germany it isn't redirecting properly, but I checked
>>from a different server now (footils.org), and there it is. So probably
>> some strange thing happening with my provider's DNS. Sorry for
>> interrupting.
>>
>> Ciao
>> --
>> Frank
>>
>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 11:47:50AM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>> puredata.org is mapped to the same IP address as puredata.info.
>>> puredata.org still shows up as owned by A.A.J. van de Ven
>>> <vandeven at educa.com> and run off of mydomain.com.  IMHO, it should
>>> be transferred to IEM to be an official domain.
> 
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