[PD] hexloader WAS: Pd-extended 0.42.5 release candidate 3 released!

Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at at.or.at
Mon Jun 21 02:09:10 CEST 2010

On Jun 20, 2010, at 5:15 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote:

> On Sun, 2010-06-20 at 09:26 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>> On Jun 20, 2010, at 8:48 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote:
>>> On Sat, 2010-06-19 at 21:05 -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>>>> A JAR is a .zip file of a folder with individual .class files, one
>>>>> for
>>>>> each class.
>>>> Congratulations.
>>> Can we stick to the topic?
>>> I repeat my question: Is there still a good reason not to load
>>> hexloader
>>> automatically at start-up in Pd-extended?
>>> Thanks
>>> Roman
>> If you want to find out, I suggest you read the archives to find out
>> what the original problem was, and test it again to see if it is  
>> still
>> a problem.
> Googling for 'site:lists.puredata.info hexloader' gave me (in
> non-chronologic order):
> http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2009-05/013603.html
> (fixed in Pd-extended-0.42-5-rc2)
> http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2008-06/011865.html
> [iemlib/any] does still not load, although [import iemlib] [any] does.
> Now the problem seems totally unrelated to [hexloader].
> http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2007-04/049085.html
> (fixed in Pd-extended-0.42-5-rc2)
> http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2007-09/009544.html
> (fixed)
> http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2007-12/010440.html
> don't know about this one. Still an issue?
> http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2008-05/011645.html
> fixed. Though help-file for [.] still not available:
> sorry, couldn't find help patch for "scalarmult.pd"
> http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2007-10/009897.html
> This is about the built-in hexloader, I guess.
> http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2007-01/045955.html
> Don't know, what this is about exactly. However, I think I can be
> confident to state, that [hexloader] is generally working with at  
> least
> Pd-extended-0.42-5-rc2.
> http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2009-09/072587.html
> fixed in Pd-extended-0.42-5-rc2.
> http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2009-06/070717.html
> fixed
> http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2009-01/067192.html
> There problem here seems not related to hexloader.
> http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2008-07/011950.html
> This doesn't tell me anything more specific.
> When digging some more into google results, it appears that quite a
> portion of the troubles people have is due to hexloader _not_ being
> loaded per default.
> Hans, please let me know, if I missed the real reason you were talking
> about and which should be found in the archives.
> I feel that you're not much in love with hexloader, probably because
> quite some portion of all the issues mentioned in any pd-list is  
> somehow
> related to hexloader. But often it seems, that hexloader is not really
> the cause of the problem or the problem has been fixed long time ago.
> Of course, if there is still a serious problem with it, I appreciate
> your decision not to load it automatically.
> Roman

Its more IOhannes' call, he wrote the thing.  We can try enabling it  
by default in Pd-extended 0.43 if someone is willing to fix things  
when problems arise.



I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my  
telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out  
how to use my telephone."  --Bjarne Stroustrup (creator of C++)

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