[PD] [ot] sueing the mailing list...

Roman Haefeli reduzent at gmail.com
Mon Aug 23 14:03:32 CEST 2010

It seems to me as the person who erroneously posted to a public list
chose the wood hammer method right from the beginning. This doesn't
sound very serious to me. If the list would be hosted in Switzerland and
I'd be admin of it, I'd feel quite safe. Not that I am a legal expert,
but if someone would have been able so easily to file a suit against an
entity from Switzerland present on the Internet, that probably would
have raised some waves and I likely would have heard about it. Usually
it takes much more to successfully file a suit than some admin _not_
removing a mail immediately from a list archive, which clearly stated
that it is public.

I guess in your position I'd first remove the original mail, as
requested by the person. If that is not satisfying already, I would
probably ask him/her to talk to other person who answered publicly and
say that they both should find an agreement on how to proceed with the
second mail.



On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 12:49 +0200, IEM - network operating center
(IOhannes m zmoelnig) wrote:
> hi all,
> sorry for posting an OT mail to the mainlist, but i really want to have
> as many opinions as posible on this.
> i (as list admin) have just received an email by somebody who wants
> their mail to be removed from the archive:
> <snip>
> August, 22 2010
> I posted a message on the pd-announce list, being not aware that it was
> a public list: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-announce/XXXX
> Someone replied to my message, also publicly, on the pd-list list:
> http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/XXXXX
> Today, I ask you to remove these two messages from your website,
> because I don't want my name to appear publicly on the web.
> If they are not removed within 15 days, I will do the necessary to sue you.
> </snip>
> i must say, that i'm a bit perplex.
> while in principal i'm not opposed to removing the post if they have any
> problems with it,
> however, i find the tone at least impertinent, and would prefer to not
> give way to a threat to sue.
> i have thus answered:
> <answer>
> hold on!
> i understand that you probably don't want an unsubscribe request to be
> available in a public archive.
> however, all the pd-mailinglists have always made it clear, that
> everything will be archived and made available to the public.
> thus, by subscribing to one of those mailinglists, you have given your
> agreement that all your postings to the list will be made available via
> those archives.
> furthermore, you are of course free to ask that your posting is removed
> from the archives.
> however, if somebody replied to your posting and has made this available
> to the public, then i don't see what entitles you to request a removal.
> it is their posting.
> the pd-lists are an open forum.
> they are no place to threaten people with sueing.
> fgmadsr
> IOhannes
> </answer>
> what do you think of all this?
> fgmasdr
> IOhannes

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