[PD] [ot] sueing the mailing list...
hyperflexed at gmail.com
Tue Aug 24 03:41:17 CEST 2010
Whether or not the user sent the e-mail to a public or private list is
beside the point IMO. One must accept in the very act of sending ANY
e-mail that they have risked having this information released to the public.
IANAL, but I only think it'd be reasonable he could sue if he could
demonstrate that this "violation of privacy" was intentional or the
result of neglect, not the result of his own incompetence and lack of
On 08/23/2010 07:20 AM, Pierre Massat wrote:
> Are the two messages of any interest to Pd users? If the answer is no,
> then i don't really see the point in not removing them, although i
> understand that this would go against the pd-list rules. This thing is i
> find this list to be extremely helpful and i d be very sad if this
> threat is credible and the future of pd-list actually endangered.
> I don't know anything about internet-related laws, though...
> 2010/8/23 IEM - network operating center (IOhannes m zmoelnig)
> <noc at iem.at <mailto:noc at iem.at>>
> hi all,
> sorry for posting an OT mail to the mainlist, but i really want to have
> as many opinions as posible on this.
> i (as list admin) have just received an email by somebody who wants
> their mail to be removed from the archive:
> Subject: FORMAT NOTICE
> August, 22 2010
> I posted a message on the pd-announce list, being not aware that it was
> a public list: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-announce/XXXX
> Someone replied to my message, also publicly, on the pd-list list:
> Today, I ask you to remove these two messages from your website,
> because I don't want my name to appear publicly on the web.
> If they are not removed within 15 days, I will do the necessary to
> sue you.
> XXX XXXXX
> i must say, that i'm a bit perplex.
> while in principal i'm not opposed to removing the post if they have any
> problems with it,
> however, i find the tone at least impertinent, and would prefer to not
> give way to a threat to sue.
> i have thus answered:
> hold on!
> i understand that you probably don't want an unsubscribe request to be
> available in a public archive.
> however, all the pd-mailinglists have always made it clear, that
> everything will be archived and made available to the public.
> thus, by subscribing to one of those mailinglists, you have given your
> agreement that all your postings to the list will be made available via
> those archives.
> furthermore, you are of course free to ask that your posting is removed
> from the archives.
> however, if somebody replied to your posting and has made this available
> to the public, then i don't see what entitles you to request a removal.
> it is their posting.
> the pd-lists are an open forum.
> they are no place to threaten people with sueing.
> what do you think of all this?
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