[PD] PD extended, Linux 64 & 32 bits

Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at at.or.at
Tue Sep 14 00:24:02 CEST 2010


Media apps seem to be much better supported in Debian/Ubuntu than in  
Fedora.  That's my two bits.

.hc

On Sep 13, 2010, at 6:22 PM, Bernardo Barros wrote:

> just curious... why switch from fedora to ubuntu?
>
>
>
> 2010/9/13 Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>:
>>
>> The Debian tools make it quite easy and manageable to build your  
>> own kernel.
>>  Try that before switching :)
>> .hc
>> On Sep 13, 2010, at 4:21 PM, András Murányi wrote:
>>
>> Ahh, livna....
>> You know, know that i have convinced my Fedora friends to switch to  
>> Ubuntu,
>> what do I tall them when i go back? :o)
>> I'll take a look at it, and also at home-brewing a kernel. Maybe  
>> that's the
>> way forward.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Andras
>>
>> 2010/9/13 Bernardo Barros <bernardobarros2 at gmail.com>
>>>
>>> Then you have to add Fusion free+non-free (maybe livna?) to your  
>>> repos.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2010/9/13 András Murányi <muranyia at gmail.com>:
>>>> Hhh, switching distro seems harder than moving to another country
>>>> sometimes... :o)
>>>> I heard that some non-free stuff if missing from Fedora, does  
>>>> CCRMA have
>>>> these? Like some proprietary codecs, etc...
>>>>
>>>> 2010/9/13 Bernardo Barros <bernardobarros2 at gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> yes, planet_ccrma is a repo for the Fedora/CentOS/RedHat family
>>>>> I like it
>>>>>
>>>>> 2010/9/13 András Murányi <muranyia at gmail.com>:
>>>>>> Hmm, hmm. That means switching to Fedora, right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2010/9/13 Bernardo Barros <bernardobarros2 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Planet CCRMA offers rt-kernel for x86_64 systems. Give it a try.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2010/9/13 András Murányi <muranyia at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 7:59 PM, jm jones <juanmjv at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi, usually I install the 64 bits version of, but the last  
>>>>>>>>> time,
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> dont remember why : ) (maybe to avoid any problems) I  
>>>>>>>>> installed
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> 32
>>>>>>>>> bits version of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. Is a repo of pd-extended for
>>>>>>>>> 10.04
>>>>>>>>> available?
>>>>>>>>> And about the 32 vs 64 bits, what are your choices?  And what
>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>> distros? Pure:dyne seems more lightweight with his xfce  
>>>>>>>>> desktop,
>>>>>>>>> however I have a good processor (core 2 duo intel e7200) and  
>>>>>>>>> 2gb
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> ram, planning an update to 6gb, so I dont know if xfce is a  
>>>>>>>>> must
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> me.
>>>>>>>>> Im a "veteran" gnu/linux user, but the last years I was  
>>>>>>>>> using OS
>>>>>>>>> X
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> W7 for music making. In Linux I want to use pd, Renoise (its
>>>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>>>> as 64 bits too), and wine for some vsts.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi There,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm sort of a veteran too (started on IBM AIX in 1992, used Red
>>>>>>>> Hat
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> long time, then went back to Windows 98, later XP, which i  
>>>>>>>> gave up
>>>>>>>> finally a
>>>>>>>> few years ago).
>>>>>>>> I'm using vanilla Ubuntu 10.04 64-bit with Gnome (and 2GB of
>>>>>>>> memory),
>>>>>>>> and my
>>>>>>>> impression is that it's not the WM that makes things slow,  
>>>>>>>> but in
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> case
>>>>>>>> of Pd, it's Pd itself. Read the archives on GUI<->core
>>>>>>>> communication
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> Tcl/Tk weirdnesses. The 64-bit version of Pd is quite tidy now,
>>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>>> actually there was a time when it seemed to me a bit slower  
>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> 32-bit
>>>>>>>> version, but AFAIK there's no reason for that any more (?)
>>>>>>>> With a decent CPU and that huge amount of RAM you (will)  
>>>>>>>> have, it
>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>> cannot be a question of WM whatsoever. Of course, the system  
>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> tuned
>>>>>>>> for realtime, undisturbed audio usage, which may include  
>>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>>> rid
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> eye-candy functions, but i never experienced a problem with  
>>>>>>>> those.
>>>>>>>> After
>>>>>>>> all, they use openGL, don't they?
>>>>>>>> The same stands for pure:dyne; at the core it's a linux kernel,
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> install on (or remove from) the top, it's up to you.
>>>>>>>> The only thing i'm missing here on 64-bit is the RT kernel.  
>>>>>>>> Once i
>>>>>>>> find
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> nice quick way, i'll grab it, but i'm not really into home- 
>>>>>>>> brewing
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>> kernel. :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Muranyi Andras
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Muranyi Andras
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