[PD] PD extended, Linux 64 & 32 bits

András Murányi muranyia at gmail.com
Tue Sep 14 00:48:18 CEST 2010


Well, i never really used Fedora... I used RH back then, and when i was to
get back to Linux after XP, I have evaluated many distros, and Ubuntu seemed
kinda promising. Why did it seem promising to me?
- large user base
- entirely non-for-profit
- targeted the desktop more definitely than some others
- software with different copyrights avalable in a rather integrated way
(universe, multiverse, medibuntu)
- nice brownish look :o)

Andras

2010/9/14 Bernardo Barros <bernardobarros2 at gmail.com>

> just curious... why switch from fedora to ubuntu?
>
>
>
> 2010/9/13 Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>:
> >
> > The Debian tools make it quite easy and manageable to build your own
> kernel.
> >  Try that before switching :)
> > .hc
> > On Sep 13, 2010, at 4:21 PM, András Murányi wrote:
> >
> > Ahh, livna....
> > You know, know that i have convinced my Fedora friends to switch to
> Ubuntu,
> > what do I tall them when i go back? :o)
> > I'll take a look at it, and also at home-brewing a kernel. Maybe that's
> the
> > way forward.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Andras
> >
> > 2010/9/13 Bernardo Barros <bernardobarros2 at gmail.com>
> >>
> >> Then you have to add Fusion free+non-free (maybe livna?) to your repos.
> >>
> >>
> >> 2010/9/13 András Murányi <muranyia at gmail.com>:
> >> > Hhh, switching distro seems harder than moving to another country
> >> > sometimes... :o)
> >> > I heard that some non-free stuff if missing from Fedora, does CCRMA
> have
> >> > these? Like some proprietary codecs, etc...
> >> >
> >> > 2010/9/13 Bernardo Barros <bernardobarros2 at gmail.com>
> >> >>
> >> >> yes, planet_ccrma is a repo for the Fedora/CentOS/RedHat family
> >> >> I like it
> >> >>
> >> >> 2010/9/13 András Murányi <muranyia at gmail.com>:
> >> >> > Hmm, hmm. That means switching to Fedora, right?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 2010/9/13 Bernardo Barros <bernardobarros2 at gmail.com>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Planet CCRMA offers rt-kernel for x86_64 systems. Give it a try.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> 2010/9/13 András Murányi <muranyia at gmail.com>:
> >> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 7:59 PM, jm jones <juanmjv at gmail.com>
> >> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Hi, usually I install the 64 bits version of, but the last
> time,
> >> >> >> >> I
> >> >> >> >> dont remember why : ) (maybe to avoid any problems) I installed
> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> 32
> >> >> >> >> bits version of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. Is a repo of pd-extended for
> >> >> >> >> 10.04
> >> >> >> >> available?
> >> >> >> >> And about the 32 vs 64 bits, what are your choices?  And what
> >> >> >> >> about
> >> >> >> >> distros? Pure:dyne seems more lightweight with his xfce
> desktop,
> >> >> >> >> however I have a good processor (core 2 duo intel e7200) and
> 2gb
> >> >> >> >> of
> >> >> >> >> ram, planning an update to 6gb, so I dont know if xfce is a
> must
> >> >> >> >> for
> >> >> >> >> me.
> >> >> >> >> Im a "veteran" gnu/linux user, but the last years I was using
> OS
> >> >> >> >> X
> >> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> >> W7 for music making. In Linux I want to use pd, Renoise (its
> >> >> >> >> available
> >> >> >> >> as 64 bits too), and wine for some vsts.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Hi There,
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I'm sort of a veteran too (started on IBM AIX in 1992, used Red
> >> >> >> > Hat
> >> >> >> > for
> >> >> >> > a
> >> >> >> > long time, then went back to Windows 98, later XP, which i gave
> up
> >> >> >> > finally a
> >> >> >> > few years ago).
> >> >> >> > I'm using vanilla Ubuntu 10.04 64-bit with Gnome (and 2GB of
> >> >> >> > memory),
> >> >> >> > and my
> >> >> >> > impression is that it's not the WM that makes things slow, but
> in
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > case
> >> >> >> > of Pd, it's Pd itself. Read the archives on GUI<->core
> >> >> >> > communication
> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> > Tcl/Tk weirdnesses. The 64-bit version of Pd is quite tidy now,
> >> >> >> > well
> >> >> >> > actually there was a time when it seemed to me a bit slower than
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > 32-bit
> >> >> >> > version, but AFAIK there's no reason for that any more (?)
> >> >> >> > With a decent CPU and that huge amount of RAM you (will) have,
> it
> >> >> >> > really
> >> >> >> > cannot be a question of WM whatsoever. Of course, the system has
> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> > be
> >> >> >> > tuned
> >> >> >> > for realtime, undisturbed audio usage, which may include getting
> >> >> >> > rid
> >> >> >> > of
> >> >> >> > eye-candy functions, but i never experienced a problem with
> those.
> >> >> >> > After
> >> >> >> > all, they use openGL, don't they?
> >> >> >> > The same stands for pure:dyne; at the core it's a linux kernel,
> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> > what
> >> >> >> > you
> >> >> >> > install on (or remove from) the top, it's up to you.
> >> >> >> > The only thing i'm missing here on 64-bit is the RT kernel. Once
> i
> >> >> >> > find
> >> >> >> > a
> >> >> >> > nice quick way, i'll grab it, but i'm not really into
> home-brewing
> >> >> >> > my
> >> >> >> > kernel. :)
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Muranyi Andras
> >> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Muranyi Andras
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Muranyi Andras
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