[PD] PD extended, Linux 64 & 32 bits

Bernardo Barros bernardobarros2 at gmail.com
Tue Sep 14 00:54:58 CEST 2010


come'on, I hate brown... :-)

One thing is that Canonical do much much less to Linux kernel
development then RedHat. They don't give back :-(

2010/9/13 András Murányi <muranyia at gmail.com>:
> Well, i never really used Fedora... I used RH back then, and when i was to
> get back to Linux after XP, I have evaluated many distros, and Ubuntu seemed
> kinda promising. Why did it seem promising to me?
> - large user base
> - entirely non-for-profit
> - targeted the desktop more definitely than some others
> - software with different copyrights avalable in a rather integrated way
> (universe, multiverse, medibuntu)
> - nice brownish look :o)
>
> Andras
>
> 2010/9/14 Bernardo Barros <bernardobarros2 at gmail.com>
>>
>> just curious... why switch from fedora to ubuntu?
>>
>>
>>
>> 2010/9/13 Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>:
>> >
>> > The Debian tools make it quite easy and manageable to build your own
>> > kernel.
>> >  Try that before switching :)
>> > .hc
>> > On Sep 13, 2010, at 4:21 PM, András Murányi wrote:
>> >
>> > Ahh, livna....
>> > You know, know that i have convinced my Fedora friends to switch to
>> > Ubuntu,
>> > what do I tall them when i go back? :o)
>> > I'll take a look at it, and also at home-brewing a kernel. Maybe that's
>> > the
>> > way forward.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Andras
>> >
>> > 2010/9/13 Bernardo Barros <bernardobarros2 at gmail.com>
>> >>
>> >> Then you have to add Fusion free+non-free (maybe livna?) to your repos.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2010/9/13 András Murányi <muranyia at gmail.com>:
>> >> > Hhh, switching distro seems harder than moving to another country
>> >> > sometimes... :o)
>> >> > I heard that some non-free stuff if missing from Fedora, does CCRMA
>> >> > have
>> >> > these? Like some proprietary codecs, etc...
>> >> >
>> >> > 2010/9/13 Bernardo Barros <bernardobarros2 at gmail.com>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> yes, planet_ccrma is a repo for the Fedora/CentOS/RedHat family
>> >> >> I like it
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2010/9/13 András Murányi <muranyia at gmail.com>:
>> >> >> > Hmm, hmm. That means switching to Fedora, right?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 2010/9/13 Bernardo Barros <bernardobarros2 at gmail.com>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Planet CCRMA offers rt-kernel for x86_64 systems. Give it a try.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> 2010/9/13 András Murányi <muranyia at gmail.com>:
>> >> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 7:59 PM, jm jones <juanmjv at gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Hi, usually I install the 64 bits version of, but the last
>> >> >> >> >> time,
>> >> >> >> >> I
>> >> >> >> >> dont remember why : ) (maybe to avoid any problems) I
>> >> >> >> >> installed
>> >> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> 32
>> >> >> >> >> bits version of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. Is a repo of pd-extended for
>> >> >> >> >> 10.04
>> >> >> >> >> available?
>> >> >> >> >> And about the 32 vs 64 bits, what are your choices?  And what
>> >> >> >> >> about
>> >> >> >> >> distros? Pure:dyne seems more lightweight with his xfce
>> >> >> >> >> desktop,
>> >> >> >> >> however I have a good processor (core 2 duo intel e7200) and
>> >> >> >> >> 2gb
>> >> >> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> >> ram, planning an update to 6gb, so I dont know if xfce is a
>> >> >> >> >> must
>> >> >> >> >> for
>> >> >> >> >> me.
>> >> >> >> >> Im a "veteran" gnu/linux user, but the last years I was using
>> >> >> >> >> OS
>> >> >> >> >> X
>> >> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> >> W7 for music making. In Linux I want to use pd, Renoise (its
>> >> >> >> >> available
>> >> >> >> >> as 64 bits too), and wine for some vsts.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Hi There,
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > I'm sort of a veteran too (started on IBM AIX in 1992, used Red
>> >> >> >> > Hat
>> >> >> >> > for
>> >> >> >> > a
>> >> >> >> > long time, then went back to Windows 98, later XP, which i gave
>> >> >> >> > up
>> >> >> >> > finally a
>> >> >> >> > few years ago).
>> >> >> >> > I'm using vanilla Ubuntu 10.04 64-bit with Gnome (and 2GB of
>> >> >> >> > memory),
>> >> >> >> > and my
>> >> >> >> > impression is that it's not the WM that makes things slow, but
>> >> >> >> > in
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> > case
>> >> >> >> > of Pd, it's Pd itself. Read the archives on GUI<->core
>> >> >> >> > communication
>> >> >> >> > and
>> >> >> >> > Tcl/Tk weirdnesses. The 64-bit version of Pd is quite tidy now,
>> >> >> >> > well
>> >> >> >> > actually there was a time when it seemed to me a bit slower
>> >> >> >> > than
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> > 32-bit
>> >> >> >> > version, but AFAIK there's no reason for that any more (?)
>> >> >> >> > With a decent CPU and that huge amount of RAM you (will) have,
>> >> >> >> > it
>> >> >> >> > really
>> >> >> >> > cannot be a question of WM whatsoever. Of course, the system
>> >> >> >> > has
>> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> > be
>> >> >> >> > tuned
>> >> >> >> > for realtime, undisturbed audio usage, which may include
>> >> >> >> > getting
>> >> >> >> > rid
>> >> >> >> > of
>> >> >> >> > eye-candy functions, but i never experienced a problem with
>> >> >> >> > those.
>> >> >> >> > After
>> >> >> >> > all, they use openGL, don't they?
>> >> >> >> > The same stands for pure:dyne; at the core it's a linux kernel,
>> >> >> >> > and
>> >> >> >> > what
>> >> >> >> > you
>> >> >> >> > install on (or remove from) the top, it's up to you.
>> >> >> >> > The only thing i'm missing here on 64-bit is the RT kernel.
>> >> >> >> > Once i
>> >> >> >> > find
>> >> >> >> > a
>> >> >> >> > nice quick way, i'll grab it, but i'm not really into
>> >> >> >> > home-brewing
>> >> >> >> > my
>> >> >> >> > kernel. :)
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Muranyi Andras
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Muranyi Andras
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