[PD] PD extended, Linux 64 & 32 bits

Tue Sep 14 01:18:00 CEST 2010

Canonical does do a lot of GNOME development tho, from what I've  
heard.  They do contribute a lot of code, but in different areas.  But  
it would be interesting to see how the various GNU/Linux companies  
compare in terms of how much code they contribute.

.hc

On Sep 13, 2010, at 6:54 PM, Bernardo Barros wrote:

> come'on, I hate brown... :-)
>
> One thing is that Canonical do much much less to Linux kernel
> development then RedHat. They don't give back :-(
>
> 2010/9/13 András Murányi <muranyia at gmail.com>:
>> Well, i never really used Fedora... I used RH back then, and when i  
>> was to
>> get back to Linux after XP, I have evaluated many distros, and  
>> Ubuntu seemed
>> kinda promising. Why did it seem promising to me?
>> - large user base
>> - entirely non-for-profit
>> - targeted the desktop more definitely than some others
>> - software with different copyrights avalable in a rather  
>> integrated way
>> (universe, multiverse, medibuntu)
>> - nice brownish look :o)
>>
>> Andras
>>
>> 2010/9/14 Bernardo Barros <bernardobarros2 at gmail.com>
>>>
>>> just curious... why switch from fedora to ubuntu?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2010/9/13 Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>:
>>>>
>>>> The Debian tools make it quite easy and manageable to build your  
>>>> own
>>>> kernel.
>>>>  Try that before switching :)
>>>> .hc
>>>> On Sep 13, 2010, at 4:21 PM, András Murányi wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ahh, livna....
>>>> You know, know that i have convinced my Fedora friends to switch to
>>>> Ubuntu,
>>>> what do I tall them when i go back? :o)
>>>> I'll take a look at it, and also at home-brewing a kernel. Maybe  
>>>> that's
>>>> the
>>>> way forward.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Andras
>>>>
>>>> 2010/9/13 Bernardo Barros <bernardobarros2 at gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Then you have to add Fusion free+non-free (maybe livna?) to your  
>>>>> repos.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2010/9/13 András Murányi <muranyia at gmail.com>:
>>>>>> Hhh, switching distro seems harder than moving to another country
>>>>>> sometimes... :o)
>>>>>> I heard that some non-free stuff if missing from Fedora, does  
>>>>>> CCRMA
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> these? Like some proprietary codecs, etc...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2010/9/13 Bernardo Barros <bernardobarros2 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> yes, planet_ccrma is a repo for the Fedora/CentOS/RedHat family
>>>>>>> I like it
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2010/9/13 András Murányi <muranyia at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>> Hmm, hmm. That means switching to Fedora, right?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2010/9/13 Bernardo Barros <bernardobarros2 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Planet CCRMA offers rt-kernel for x86_64 systems. Give it a  
>>>>>>>>> try.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2010/9/13 András Murányi <muranyia at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 7:59 PM, jm jones <juanmjv at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, usually I install the 64 bits version of, but the last
>>>>>>>>>>> time,
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> dont remember why : ) (maybe to avoid any problems) I
>>>>>>>>>>> installed
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> 32
>>>>>>>>>>> bits version of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. Is a repo of pd-extended  
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> 10.04
>>>>>>>>>>> available?
>>>>>>>>>>> And about the 32 vs 64 bits, what are your choices?  And  
>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>> distros? Pure:dyne seems more lightweight with his xfce
>>>>>>>>>>> desktop,
>>>>>>>>>>> however I have a good processor (core 2 duo intel e7200) and
>>>>>>>>>>> 2gb
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> ram, planning an update to 6gb, so I dont know if xfce is a
>>>>>>>>>>> must
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> me.
>>>>>>>>>>> Im a "veteran" gnu/linux user, but the last years I was  
>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>> OS
>>>>>>>>>>> X
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> W7 for music making. In Linux I want to use pd, Renoise (its
>>>>>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>>>>>> as 64 bits too), and wine for some vsts.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi There,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm sort of a veteran too (started on IBM AIX in 1992, used  
>>>>>>>>>> Red
>>>>>>>>>> Hat
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> long time, then went back to Windows 98, later XP, which i  
>>>>>>>>>> gave
>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>> finally a
>>>>>>>>>> few years ago).
>>>>>>>>>> I'm using vanilla Ubuntu 10.04 64-bit with Gnome (and 2GB of
>>>>>>>>>> memory),
>>>>>>>>>> and my
>>>>>>>>>> impression is that it's not the WM that makes things slow,  
>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> case
>>>>>>>>>> of Pd, it's Pd itself. Read the archives on GUI<->core
>>>>>>>>>> communication
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> Tcl/Tk weirdnesses. The 64-bit version of Pd is quite tidy  
>>>>>>>>>> now,
>>>>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>>>>> actually there was a time when it seemed to me a bit slower
>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> 32-bit
>>>>>>>>>> version, but AFAIK there's no reason for that any more (?)
>>>>>>>>>> With a decent CPU and that huge amount of RAM you (will)  
>>>>>>>>>> have,
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>>> cannot be a question of WM whatsoever. Of course, the system
>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> tuned
>>>>>>>>>> for realtime, undisturbed audio usage, which may include
>>>>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>>>>> rid
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> eye-candy functions, but i never experienced a problem with
>>>>>>>>>> those.
>>>>>>>>>> After
>>>>>>>>>> all, they use openGL, don't they?
>>>>>>>>>> The same stands for pure:dyne; at the core it's a linux  
>>>>>>>>>> kernel,
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> install on (or remove from) the top, it's up to you.
>>>>>>>>>> The only thing i'm missing here on 64-bit is the RT kernel.
>>>>>>>>>> Once i
>>>>>>>>>> find
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> nice quick way, i'll grab it, but i'm not really into
>>>>>>>>>> home-brewing
>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>> kernel. :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Muranyi Andras
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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