[PD] PD extended, Linux 64 & 32 bits

Tue Sep 14 02:50:55 CEST 2010

I think RedHat, Novell, IBM, Google are some of the institutions that
send more patches to the kernel.
There are a lot of independent and anonymous guys too. Maybe people at
University? I don't know.
BUT Canonical are not one of those companies. Maybe for GNOME. But I
think the most exciting desktop development are happening with KDE/Qt
anyway.

2010/9/13 Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>:
>
> Canonical does do a lot of GNOME development tho, from what I've heard.
>  They do contribute a lot of code, but in different areas.  But it would be
> interesting to see how the various GNU/Linux companies compare in terms of
> how much code they contribute.
>
> .hc
>
> On Sep 13, 2010, at 6:54 PM, Bernardo Barros wrote:
>
>> come'on, I hate brown... :-)
>>
>> One thing is that Canonical do much much less to Linux kernel
>> development then RedHat. They don't give back :-(
>>
>> 2010/9/13 András Murányi <muranyia at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> Well, i never really used Fedora... I used RH back then, and when i was
>>> to
>>> get back to Linux after XP, I have evaluated many distros, and Ubuntu
>>> seemed
>>> kinda promising. Why did it seem promising to me?
>>> - large user base
>>> - entirely non-for-profit
>>> - targeted the desktop more definitely than some others
>>> - software with different copyrights avalable in a rather integrated way
>>> (universe, multiverse, medibuntu)
>>> - nice brownish look :o)
>>>
>>> Andras
>>>
>>> 2010/9/14 Bernardo Barros <bernardobarros2 at gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> just curious... why switch from fedora to ubuntu?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2010/9/13 Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>:
>>>>>
>>>>> The Debian tools make it quite easy and manageable to build your own
>>>>> kernel.
>>>>>  Try that before switching :)
>>>>> .hc
>>>>> On Sep 13, 2010, at 4:21 PM, András Murányi wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Ahh, livna....
>>>>> You know, know that i have convinced my Fedora friends to switch to
>>>>> Ubuntu,
>>>>> what do I tall them when i go back? :o)
>>>>> I'll take a look at it, and also at home-brewing a kernel. Maybe that's
>>>>> the
>>>>> way forward.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Andras
>>>>>
>>>>> 2010/9/13 Bernardo Barros <bernardobarros2 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then you have to add Fusion free+non-free (maybe livna?) to your
>>>>>> repos.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2010/9/13 András Murányi <muranyia at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hhh, switching distro seems harder than moving to another country
>>>>>>> sometimes... :o)
>>>>>>> I heard that some non-free stuff if missing from Fedora, does CCRMA
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> these? Like some proprietary codecs, etc...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2010/9/13 Bernardo Barros <bernardobarros2 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> yes, planet_ccrma is a repo for the Fedora/CentOS/RedHat family
>>>>>>>> I like it
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2010/9/13 András Murányi <muranyia at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hmm, hmm. That means switching to Fedora, right?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2010/9/13 Bernardo Barros <bernardobarros2 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Planet CCRMA offers rt-kernel for x86_64 systems. Give it a try.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2010/9/13 András Murányi <muranyia at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 7:59 PM, jm jones <juanmjv at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, usually I install the 64 bits version of, but the last
>>>>>>>>>>>> time,
>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> dont remember why : ) (maybe to avoid any problems) I
>>>>>>>>>>>> installed
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> 32
>>>>>>>>>>>> bits version of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. Is a repo of pd-extended for
>>>>>>>>>>>> 10.04
>>>>>>>>>>>> available?
>>>>>>>>>>>> And about the 32 vs 64 bits, what are your choices?  And what
>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>> distros? Pure:dyne seems more lightweight with his xfce
>>>>>>>>>>>> desktop,
>>>>>>>>>>>> however I have a good processor (core 2 duo intel e7200) and
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2gb
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> ram, planning an update to 6gb, so I dont know if xfce is a
>>>>>>>>>>>> must
>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> me.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Im a "veteran" gnu/linux user, but the last years I was using
>>>>>>>>>>>> OS
>>>>>>>>>>>> X
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> W7 for music making. In Linux I want to use pd, Renoise (its
>>>>>>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>>>>>>> as 64 bits too), and wine for some vsts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi There,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sort of a veteran too (started on IBM AIX in 1992, used Red
>>>>>>>>>>> Hat
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> long time, then went back to Windows 98, later XP, which i gave
>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>> finally a
>>>>>>>>>>> few years ago).
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm using vanilla Ubuntu 10.04 64-bit with Gnome (and 2GB of
>>>>>>>>>>> memory),
>>>>>>>>>>> and my
>>>>>>>>>>> impression is that it's not the WM that makes things slow, but
>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> case
>>>>>>>>>>> of Pd, it's Pd itself. Read the archives on GUI<->core
>>>>>>>>>>> communication
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> Tcl/Tk weirdnesses. The 64-bit version of Pd is quite tidy now,
>>>>>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>>>>>> actually there was a time when it seemed to me a bit slower
>>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> 32-bit
>>>>>>>>>>> version, but AFAIK there's no reason for that any more (?)
>>>>>>>>>>> With a decent CPU and that huge amount of RAM you (will) have,
>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>>>> cannot be a question of WM whatsoever. Of course, the system
>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>> tuned
>>>>>>>>>>> for realtime, undisturbed audio usage, which may include
>>>>>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>>>>>> rid
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> eye-candy functions, but i never experienced a problem with
>>>>>>>>>>> those.
>>>>>>>>>>> After
>>>>>>>>>>> all, they use openGL, don't they?
>>>>>>>>>>> The same stands for pure:dyne; at the core it's a linux kernel,
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>> install on (or remove from) the top, it's up to you.
>>>>>>>>>>> The only thing i'm missing here on 64-bit is the RT kernel.
>>>>>>>>>>> Once i
>>>>>>>>>>> find
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> nice quick way, i'll grab it, but i'm not really into
>>>>>>>>>>> home-brewing
>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>> kernel. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Muranyi Andras
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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