[PD] tkwidgets WAS: Hi, new user. Question about max/msp and PD

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

On Sep 13, 2010, at 11:59 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:

>
>
> --- On Mon, 9/13/10, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at> wrote:
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>> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>
>> Subject: Re: [PD] Hi, new user. Question about max/msp and PD
>> To: "Jonathan Wilkes" <jancsika at yahoo.com>
>> Cc: "Frank Barknecht" <fbar at footils.org>, "Mathieu Bouchard" <matju at artengine.ca 
>> >, pd-list at iem.at
>> Date: Monday, September 13, 2010, 11:46 PM
>> On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 09:46 -0700,
>> Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
>>>
>>> --- On Mon, 9/13/10, Mathieu Bouchard <matju at artengine.ca>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> From: Mathieu Bouchard <matju at artengine.ca>
>>>> Subject: Re: [PD] Hi, new user. Question about
>> max/msp and PD
>>>> To: "Frank Barknecht" <fbar at footils.org>
>>>> Cc: pd-list at iem.at
>>>> Date: Monday, September 13, 2010, 5:19 PM
>>>> On Mon, 13 Sep 2010, Frank Barknecht
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Oh, and instead of [transport] just use a
>> metro with a
>>>> counter sending to some global receiver. Read
>> from this with
>>>> [select] to get a kind of Max-5's [timepoint]
>> clone. See,
>>>> there's no magic behind these new Max 5 features,
>> they just
>>>> unified a bit what all Max/Pd users do anyway in
>> their
>>>> patches.
>>>>
>>>> It's also that it's more marketable if they add
>> rather
>>>> trivial features just so that they can say «Max
>> 5 has more
>>>> features about time scale !». It's easier than
>> to explain
>>>> to them that Max doesn't need those features.
>>>
>>> Better object documentation in Pd is a trivial feature
>> in this sense--
>>> it's easier for you to spend your time documenting GF
>> objects than
>>> to explain how to read the source code.  (See,
>> there's no magic behind
>>> those GF objects!)
>>>
>>> Also, it's more marketable if Max has an object like
>> [textedit] where
>>> the user can type multi-line text into a box.
>> It's easier than
>>> picking through the Toxy graveyard and learning that
>> you can't send
>>> messages to the widget unless its containing canvas is
>> visible, then
>>> trying to work with [entry] and having the data you
>> typed in the
>>> box disappear because you minimized the window.
>> Then realizing that the
>>> whole reason you're looking for an object that
>> corresponds to [textedit]
>>> is because you can't resize message boxes (and they
>> don't appear on a gop canvas).
>>>
>>> -Jonathan
>>
>> You could try tkwidgets/text.  I really should finish
>> that library.  Its
>> close to done, and it'll probably a suite of nice GUI
>> objects, including
>> something like textedit.
>>
>> .hc
>>
>>
>
> That sounds cool.
>
> Hm, I was reading through the sourcerepositories page on
> puredata.info, and I'm not sure how I'd go about trying those
> objects out.  Do I need to compile pd-extended from svn, or is
> there a way to just compile that library and use it with the
> nightly build?  (I tried make in tkwidgets/ but got the "no rule
> to make target" error.)
>
> -Jonathan


Ok, I fixed the build system and undid some silly changes that broke  
everything.  It is now in a working state:

svn co https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/trunk/externals/tkwidgets
cd tkwidgets
make

You should have a recent version of Pd-extended installed in order for  
it to build.

.hc

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