[PD] PD extended, Linux 64 & 32 bits

Pedro Lopes pedro.lopes at ist.utl.pt
Tue Sep 14 15:20:27 CEST 2010


That validates my statement to: "do not have the latest version" :) Do you
win anything in using Lucid versus Karmic? Karmic has rt, it works like a
charm, I can put jack with a latency of 9ms with H4 audio as USB audio card
(no drivers no install) and no xruns - running nicely. If I do not use -rt
kernel, xruns begin at that latency value.

Best regards,
Pedro Lopes

2010/9/13 András Murányi <muranyia at gmail.com>

> Nope. It's gone.
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1388451
>
> Andras
>
> 2010/9/13 Pedro Lopes <pedro.lopes at ist.utl.pt>
>
> Sorry just double checking something András... there's no rt kernel for 64
>> bits Ubuntu? (or you're saying for the lucid lynx?)
>>
>> Cause karmic koala has rt, I have Ubuntu Studio 64 bits with rt [1]
>>
>> [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/9.10release_notes
>>
>> 2010/9/13 András Murányi <muranyia at gmail.com>
>>
>>> Ahh, livna....
>>> You know, know that i have convinced my Fedora friends to switch to
>>> Ubuntu, what do I tall them when i go back? :o)
>>> I'll take a look at it, and also at home-brewing a kernel. Maybe that's
>>> the way forward.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Andras
>>>
>>>
>>> 2010/9/13 Bernardo Barros <bernardobarros2 at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> Then you have to add Fusion free+non-free (maybe livna?) to your repos.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2010/9/13 András Murányi <muranyia at gmail.com>:
>>>> > Hhh, switching distro seems harder than moving to another country
>>>> > sometimes... :o)
>>>> > I heard that some non-free stuff if missing from Fedora, does CCRMA
>>>> have
>>>> > these? Like some proprietary codecs, etc...
>>>> >
>>>> > 2010/9/13 Bernardo Barros <bernardobarros2 at gmail.com>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> yes, planet_ccrma is a repo for the Fedora/CentOS/RedHat family
>>>> >> I like it
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 2010/9/13 András Murányi <muranyia at gmail.com>:
>>>> >> > Hmm, hmm. That means switching to Fedora, right?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > 2010/9/13 Bernardo Barros <bernardobarros2 at gmail.com>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Planet CCRMA offers rt-kernel for x86_64 systems. Give it a try.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> 2010/9/13 András Murányi <muranyia at gmail.com>:
>>>> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 7:59 PM, jm jones <juanmjv at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> Hi, usually I install the 64 bits version of, but the last
>>>> time, I
>>>> >> >> >> dont remember why : ) (maybe to avoid any problems) I installed
>>>> the
>>>> >> >> >> 32
>>>> >> >> >> bits version of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. Is a repo of pd-extended for
>>>> 10.04
>>>> >> >> >> available?
>>>> >> >> >> And about the 32 vs 64 bits, what are your choices?  And what
>>>> about
>>>> >> >> >> distros? Pure:dyne seems more lightweight with his xfce
>>>> desktop,
>>>> >> >> >> however I have a good processor (core 2 duo intel e7200) and
>>>> 2gb of
>>>> >> >> >> ram, planning an update to 6gb, so I dont know if xfce is a
>>>> must for
>>>> >> >> >> me.
>>>> >> >> >> Im a "veteran" gnu/linux user, but the last years I was using
>>>> OS X
>>>> >> >> >> and
>>>> >> >> >> W7 for music making. In Linux I want to use pd, Renoise (its
>>>> >> >> >> available
>>>> >> >> >> as 64 bits too), and wine for some vsts.
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > Hi There,
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > I'm sort of a veteran too (started on IBM AIX in 1992, used Red
>>>> Hat
>>>> >> >> > for
>>>> >> >> > a
>>>> >> >> > long time, then went back to Windows 98, later XP, which i gave
>>>> up
>>>> >> >> > finally a
>>>> >> >> > few years ago).
>>>> >> >> > I'm using vanilla Ubuntu 10.04 64-bit with Gnome (and 2GB of
>>>> memory),
>>>> >> >> > and my
>>>> >> >> > impression is that it's not the WM that makes things slow, but
>>>> in the
>>>> >> >> > case
>>>> >> >> > of Pd, it's Pd itself. Read the archives on GUI<->core
>>>> communication
>>>> >> >> > and
>>>> >> >> > Tcl/Tk weirdnesses. The 64-bit version of Pd is quite tidy now,
>>>> well
>>>> >> >> > actually there was a time when it seemed to me a bit slower than
>>>> the
>>>> >> >> > 32-bit
>>>> >> >> > version, but AFAIK there's no reason for that any more (?)
>>>> >> >> > With a decent CPU and that huge amount of RAM you (will) have,
>>>> it
>>>> >> >> > really
>>>> >> >> > cannot be a question of WM whatsoever. Of course, the system has
>>>> to
>>>> >> >> > be
>>>> >> >> > tuned
>>>> >> >> > for realtime, undisturbed audio usage, which may include getting
>>>> rid
>>>> >> >> > of
>>>> >> >> > eye-candy functions, but i never experienced a problem with
>>>> those.
>>>> >> >> > After
>>>> >> >> > all, they use openGL, don't they?
>>>> >> >> > The same stands for pure:dyne; at the core it's a linux kernel,
>>>> and
>>>> >> >> > what
>>>> >> >> > you
>>>> >> >> > install on (or remove from) the top, it's up to you.
>>>> >> >> > The only thing i'm missing here on 64-bit is the RT kernel. Once
>>>> i
>>>> >> >> > find
>>>> >> >> > a
>>>> >> >> > nice quick way, i'll grab it, but i'm not really into
>>>> home-brewing my
>>>> >> >> > kernel. :)
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Muranyi Andras
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Muranyi Andras
>>>
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>> --
>> Pedro Lopes (ongoing MSc)
>> contact: pedro.lopes at ist.utl.pt
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>>
>
>
>
> --
> Muranyi Andras
>



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