[PD] Fw: Pd-extended 0.42.5 release candidate 6 released!

[Ed Kelly]

Shut UP! Everyone.

We all know that a large proportion of the computers in the world run Windows. 
Pure Data is not elitist, apart from the French pronunciation of PD which was an 

anti-elitist statement in the first instance.

We are not in the business of saying who can and who cannot use this software, 
otherwise it would just be another Max/MSP and we'd have to email our DNA to 
IRCAM or Cycling74 in order to log onto our computers every time. (I was born in 

'74 - I resent their use of my birth-year, but I do not try to patent it).

This Ideological discussion is dead, and it has been dead for as long as I can 
remember. PD is BSD for Miller because of his ironic involvement with MSP, and 
GNU for everyone else. Don't clog the list with ideology. We are not a Tea 
Party.

PS the Pope is in the UK, and still talking about the Nazis. He is a 20th 
century relic. Do not become that. Use flexibly your status, and we might just 
have a point!

Get over it, and love or hat each other openly.
Metastudio 4 for Pure Data - coming soon!!



----- Original Message ----
From: patko <colet.patrice at free.fr>
To: Bernardo Barros <bernardobarros2 at gmail.com>
Cc: pd-list <pd-list at iem.at>
Sent: Fri, 17 September, 2010 15:40:10
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 release candidate 6 released!

Konichiwa,

Windows in itself is very crappy, it's not really about multimedia,
almost everything isn't good on this platform,
maintaining a list of crappy things on windows would just be a waste of time.

Just stop removing fresh air from windows users when they can find in it 
applications like PureData, when they are available on this crappy platform.

Also the little cd isn't able to handle any computer hardware,
without a little bit of knowledge about what is X server for example,
Or simply without the matching hardware.

(please don't read this serioulsy)

This even sound very elitistic, the windows users would just use the great cd
that has been compiled by the real people who know things,
and just keep windows for playing their games,
or to run the great music softwares they bought because on linux there are no 
real solution
that is handling mainstream music composition without knowledge about computers.

Sorry to put those misplaced arguments, but sometimes I'm wondering about 
solutions
instead of closing doors.

The windows version is probably the most downloaded because users aren't 
satisfied,
and are waiting for the big changes.

----- "Bernardo Barros" <bernardobarros2 at gmail.com> a écrit :

> BTW SuperCollider did not released the 3.4 verion for Windows. Widows
> is just crappy for audio.
> That means more bugs and more issues to fix. more work for developers
> etc.
> The situation is that anyone can put a puredyne live-cd and work with
> pd/supercollider/whatever on any computer on earth.
> 
> 
> 2010/9/17 András Murányi <muranyia at gmail.com>:
> > Maybe i'm short of rationality, (and i may sound weird, please don't
> > misunderstand) but for me it's like a race issue... we shall not
> > discriminate windows users, because most of them were "born into"
> windows.
> > It's not like you buy your first computer and the vendor asks you
> "which OS
> > please?", and you have a 360 degree view of them you if you are cool
> you
> > choose linux, and if you are a jerk you choose windows. Be more
> tolerant,
> > and of course be happy that you are already "on the right side", but
> try to
> > help those "on the dark side" rather than abandoning them.
> > Just 2 cents.
> >
> > Andras
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Bernardo Barros
> <bernarTdobarros2 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Just stop losing energy with Windows. Better concentrate our
> limited
> >> resources....
> >> Linux is better for audio anyway, and it's so easy to
> use/install/try
> >> these days.
> >>
> >> 2010/9/16 ydegoyon at gmail.com <ydegoyon at gmail.com>:
> >> > ola,
> >> >
> >> >>>> The Windows package is still the most downloaded.
> >> >
> >> > so what? that's where the big illusion stands ( having more
> customers? )
> >> > do you expect any of these to be great creators???
> >> >
> >> > we'll see hey
> >> >
> >> > sevy
> >> >
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