[PD] unix and (bad) companies.

Wed Sep 22 16:16:28 CEST 2010

cinelerra is basically Bcast2000 redone IMHO
I will look at kdenlive i guess!
:-)
thx.
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From: Hans-Christoph Steiner [hans at at.or.at]
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 10:07 AM
To: Pagano, Patrick
Cc: James Dunn; pd-list at iem.at
Subject: Re: [PD] unix and (bad) companies.

How about kdenlive or cinelerra?  I've been working a bit with kdelive
and it seems pretty straightforward and even usable ;)

.hc

On Sep 22, 2010, at 9:57 AM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:

> the achilles heel for linux in my opinion is still video editing.
> I've tried everything from Broadcast2000 to Lives with no luck
> bueller?
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> James Dunn [james at 4thharmonic.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 7:25 AM
> To: pd-list at iem.at
> Subject: Re: [PD] unix and (bad) companies.
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> I love linux and ubuntu but the driver support is a bit of an issue.
> I recently upgraded my mother's computer to 10.04 and now her Dell
> V505 all-in-one printer doesn't work. I got no (helpful) response
> from emailing Dell.
> Secondly on a pd related problem, I am still running 8.04 because
> the proprietary ATI driver (no longer maintained) will only run on
> the old version of xorg and the open source driver doesn't have 3D
> support for Gem...
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> James
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> Quoth servando barreiro, on 22/09/10 12:06:
>
> HI there..
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> I just want to "share" my experiences with Os´s..
>
> I started in the nineties with a windows machine, I tried 95, 98,
> millenium, nt, xp....
> It hanged really frequently  (20 times in a day w cad software..) so
> I assumed that as a normal function state from the machine..
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> At some point I tried  beOS and I found it great but I couldn´t do
> anything w it..
>
> years later, I discovered that computers with the fruit thing  and I
> was really amazed, not just because of the stabilty  (but still one
> or two hangs per day with os 9.2),  also because I could do audio in
> real-time with them..  (well, coming from that windows nightmare,
> even a gameboy was fascinating..)
>
> Then I got one.. and until the day, I´ve been using all the Os´s and
> also tried almost all the hardware that was/is in the market.
>
> My experience with linux (about 4 years ago, ethic/curiosity  )
> started very slow, but definitely in an ascendent curve of
> satisfaction & admiration..
>
> Nowadays to code and to travel, I use a small thinkpad with ubuntu
> 10 and the experience is just fantastic..   It´s actually so good
> that I´m starting to hate all the mac shits..   Because when you
> know where linux cames from and who works on it,  you can understand
> that sometimes you have to put energy  on your side to look for a
> driver or whatever  (Not the case at all w ubu 10).
>
> What I can´t understand....  Is that this big companies (micr/appl)
> with hundred or "thousands" of good programmers working for them,
> are still doing crap...   (seems that they are focusing energies in
> making money & trying to protect his soft/hard  instead of making
> good code...)
>
> yesterday I formatted my mac and I installed the last system
> (10.6 ).  There´s a known bug on it  that not just doesn´t connect
> to internet, it also keeps sending packets to the router until the
> router stops working,,,, (???).
>
> I had to reset the router from the linux and download one by one the
> system updates for the mac.  This bug is known since 10.6.0,  I
> already have the 10.6.4  and the bug it´s still not solved
> completely.,.. (???????)
>
> This just shows that It doesn´t matter how many hundreds of related
> posts you do in the official apple forums & related..  apple just don
> ´t give a shit about the problems of the users....  (specially if
> your hardware it´s not brand new...).
>
> The ubuntu forums are far more clear and helpful than that,,
>
> About windows, I will not complain anymore... (not neccesary),  but
> I still "understand" people that uses it, because there´s people
> that doesn´t care about computers (even when they are working w
> them..)
>
> what I do, when I´m teaching a workshop Is to carry one or two usb
> sticks with a live distro (pure dyne / openartist ) and invite the
> people to try a "truly" operative system..
>
> many of my friends, they have switched to Linux (at least
> partially..) and they are happy w it.. (that makes me happy too..).
>
> If the trajectories of the operative systems evolutions  follow as
> they are already, It wouldn´t sound strange to me that in some
> years, the amount of linux users (pure or mixed) will increase
> massively.
>
> To finish, I would just like to thank to all the linux developers /
> contributors  for his hard work to make this incredibly operative
> system.
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