[PD] [out-of-the-blue] a neat GUI feature?

Pedro Lopes pedro.lopes at ist.utl.pt
Wed Sep 29 18:40:02 CEST 2010


>why complicated metadata if you can already do [inlet~ channel1] and
[outlet activity] in an >abstraction/subpatch?
hum.. I didn't knew. Although I agree metadata would simplify the job in
many ways (some mentioned by João in the last email) this is indeed a nice
feature, but It lacks the "mouse hovering", so you always have to enter/open
the abstraction/subpatch to see what lies in there - that was my main
contribution with the "idea".

Best regards,
Pedro Lopes

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 4:39 PM, João Pais <jmmmpais at googlemail.com> wrote:

> why complicated metadata if you can already do [inlet~ channel1] and
>> [outlet activity] in an abstraction/subpatch? afaik arguments to those
>> objects currently are ignored, but i do use them sometimes to make me
>> remember their function.
>>
>
> several reasons:
>
> - unless you want a really big box there, you should only use a symbol
> (i.e. one word) for the inlets
> - to see these symbols (they can't even be considered as comments, it's not
> the same), you have to open the abstraction. if you go to open the
> abstraction, then it's easier to leave a normal comment there. the purpose
> of the idea was to save the work of opening the abstraction. just like you
> can always know what number is coming out of any object, just connect it to
> a number box; but if you are debugging, you have to be constantly putting in
> number boxes and connecting them (and later deleting them)
> - you wouldn't be able to see these comments on an external, without the
> "metadata"
> - if you decide to change the inlet~ "comment" in a patch already
> programmed, the connections will break when the object is redrawn. that's a
> not very coherent behaviour, but it's there. the metadata would be somewhere
> else in the patch.
>
>
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